Trump immigration crackdown could slash Social Security by $2,15
Trump immigration crackdown could slash Social Security by $2,15
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Do the search on the US Treasury site and go through the annnual SS Trustees' reports. The data is there.
#msg6028478The statement that " they pay in but don't take out" is so simplistic that any study using it as an argument does not sound based on what will actually happen on a large scale.
In general, take one 34 year old who came here at age 7 with his mother. Been working since he was 18. Various jobs--lots of restaurant jobs. Some construction jobs. Sometimes not paid at all for his work--and what can he do about it? Sometimes paid SS taxes (IDK- 5 years or so). Has no hope of ever collecting anything. Sure doesnt want to call attention to the fact that he wasnt born here now.
And this is a person who does now have legal status, but he didnt for many years.
You will have to believe or not believe what I am saying, because I just cant go into it more.
Some others dont have status and dont even know how to get it. They own a restaurant and ICE is often parked in their parking lot, so on those days they cant open the restaurant.
What a way to live. All this to a family who has been here for decades and broke no (non-immigration) laws. Just wanted a better life.
That report attributes demographics as the key reason and it makes assumptions without knowing how pay will be affected by hiring Americans. So if that is your "better" source where is the rest? Is that it??
You described real , not omahinary situations on the ground.
Did you analyze the raw data to reach your conclusion that they are wrong?
In my opinion, it is best to track it, not rely on snapshots. Tendiencies can, for lack of a better term, be sensed. Felt in the bones. A red sun in the morning means storms to an experienced sailor.
It's not a cop out; I understand on that.
Of course you wanted a better life. I have met only a few immigrants over the course of decades who were up to anything OTHER than just wanting to work. But now the tide has turned and many want "illegals" out. ( Hard to call them "illegal" when they were invited/ drawn in by so many willing to pay them but there it is.)
#msg6028505 Rapsalot reminds me so much of another poster who is no longer here.
I better clear this up:
I am not the immigrant. Fourth generation Texan.
Relatives are not the family I was born into, but the family we have now.
It sure sounds to me like you get the angst of those living this.
Thank you.
#msg6028515Tendiencies can, for lack of a better term, be sensed. Felt in the bones. A red sun in the morning means storms to an experienced sailor.
Studies ... plural... me want list and also talk more about YOUR study. Who is funding it? Who are you working on with it?
Bring it, Papi .... lol! Actually, chill dude. When you start in on the "sun in the morning" .........
Red sun in the morning is a very real cod and lobster fishermen sign, eh.
Lobstermen are finding the immigration crap problematic. Tins of nobody cared til now where they were from and who they married . Camicks are fas funny as Cajuns. Oh, crap , they are Acadians.
Chill mami.
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