A Kingwood developer just bought 231 acres in the floodplains an
A Kingwood developer just bought 231 acres in the floodplains an
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SpaceCat : You are correct. I left CO when I went away to school. Like CA, CO has turned into a cesspool. It's a shame because both are beautiful states.Gray boxed for being political and/or controversial in a General Chat discussion.
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Texasdaughter : I believe there are laws protecting wetlands, federal laws anyway. He would have to have studies done, apply for permits, then wait to see if the government would allow him to build. Wonder if he already has some idea that building there would probably be allowed?
kingwooddiscgolf : God I ******* hope not. Edit....ugh it is. We're screwed. That guy doesn't give A ****.
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Texasdad : My husband and I were just having this conversation. I totally agree.
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Glad I'm at 81 ft here in SW Trails. Maybe he'll have a change of heart and preserve it for an animal and bird sanctuary ?
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goldie : Yes! Ron Holley Describes His Vision for Forest Cove Golf-Course Development. In April 2019, Ron Holley, a major Kingwood developer, bought the Kingwood Cove Golf Course. Neighbors immediately started asking questions about how his plans could affect potential flooding. Forty-one Forest Cove residents flooded during Imelda last year. On 4/12 this year, Holley shared his vision for the property in a KPRC radio interview. Description of Development
The developer says he purchased 110 acres. He will reserve 20 acres of that (18%) for detention. The remaining 90 acres, he says, are all above the 500-year floodplain. The lowest part of the property sits at 50 feet above sea level. That's 7.5 feet above the average level of Lake Houston. However, he says the highest properties, those closest to Kingwood Drive, are at 90 feet. Possible names for the development include Kingwood Heights and Holley Heights, to help offset the fear of flooding and communicate the location above the current 500 year floodplain. Holley says he conducted environmental, wetland, and tree surveys on the property in the last year. He wants to preserve as many trees as possible. Lot sizes will range from half- to 1+ acres. FEMA Shows Narrow 500-year Flood Zone
In the map below, the cross-hatched area represents the floodway. The aqua colored area represents the 100-year floodplain and the brown area the 500-year floodplain. The narrowness of the 500-year band indicates a steep slope. In fact, the land rises sharply from a low river terrace to a higher terrace in that transition zone. Timing of Development
Holley says people could start building homes on the old course early next year. However, he did not say whether the property was permitted yet. Other local subdivisions developed by Holley include: Kings Harbor, Deer Ridge Estates, Kings Lake Estates, and Summer Lake Ranch. Holley has developed land in the Kingwood area since 1992. Is Drainage Sufficient?
Mr. Holley did say that 41 Forest Cove homeowners flooded during Imelda last year. Based on their concerns, he said that he is increasing drainage. He declined to answer other questions until he gets "further along in the engineering." Many neighbors have expressed concerns about the loss of pervious cover to streets, driveways, rooftops, etc. If the land is going to be developed, low density makes the most sense. And one or two families per acre certainly is better than four to eight. We have seen many such higher-density developments upstream in Montgomery County. Take Northpark Woods, for instance. Many Montgomery County developments do not even require detention ponds. This project resides both within the City of Houston and Harris County. I will continue to watch it as the engineering evolves. Detention in Floodways Less Effective
About 4 acres of the 20 acres on the lower terrace sits in the floodway. One flood expert told me, "Generally, detention basins in the floodway aren't as effective (compared to those in a floodplain) because they get full of water before they can be of much use during a flood event. A detention basin works where it can fill up and store water during a major flood event, basically an extension of the natural floodplain."
reduceflooding.com/2 020/04/14/ron-holley -describes-his-visio n-for-forest-co
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SpaceCat : A pet pooping park would be so Kingwood.
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bigcity : If I'm not mistaken, I think he has a business address here in the Kingwood/Humble area; but as to where he resides, I don't know.
CaffeineFree : That's the majority of Colorado now. Not just CS.
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Royal shores did flood. I believe all but one of the patio homes did flood. So did a lot of the other parts of Royal Shores.
Wiseowl and StormChaser reacted BobRehak: Why isn't there a law preventing development in flood plains. Building permits in these areas should be restricted. When things flood, we all pay in taxes to correct damages.
Is this the same guy that owns FCove golf course?
Just my opinion but Kingwood has limited time left for obvious reasons , A few are It's COH, It floods, overbuilt. Being Surround my communities that are in decline and less then desirable. Humble for example, crime ridden. On a good note Boomers will complete their life before it gets real bad. I'll give it 20 more years. My plan is to keep house for winter months but live in a Military city like Colorado Springs. However would sell before Kingwood turns into a has been, once a nice area. Kingwood would have about a 75 year good run by then, which is quite good. Now its part of Houston, so decline will happen.
Does he still have intentions of building homes on the Forest Cove golf course? I would hope he is not allowed to build homes or apartments on his newly purchased property, that just doesn't make sense. Shame on the city and county if they give him permission to build there.
StormChaser reacted Glad I'm at 81 ft here in SW Trails. Maybe he'll have a change of heart and preserve it for an animal and bird sanctuary ?
Does he still have intentions of building homes on the Forest Cove golf course? I would hope he is not
The developer says he purchased 110 acres. He will reserve 20 acres of that (18%) for detention. The remaining 90 acres, he says, are all above the 500-year floodplain. The lowest part of the property sits at 50 feet above sea level. That's 7.5 feet above the average level of Lake Houston. However, he says the highest properties, those closest to Kingwood Drive, are at 90 feet.
In the map below, the cross-hatched area represents the floodway. The aqua colored area represents the 100-year floodplain and the brown area the 500-year floodplain. The narrowness of the 500-year band indicates a steep slope. In fact, the land rises sharply from a low river terrace to a higher terrace in that transition zone.
Holley says people could start building homes on the old course early next year. However, he did not say whether the property was permitted yet.
Mr. Holley did say that 41 Forest Cove homeowners flooded during Imelda last year. Based on their concerns, he said that he is increasing drainage. He declined to answer other questions until he gets "further along in the engineering."
About 4 acres of the 20 acres on the lower terrace sits in the floodway. One flood expert told me, "Generally, detention basins in the floodway aren't as effective (compared to those in a floodplain) because they get full of water before they can be of much use during a flood event. A detention basin works where it can fill up and store water during a major flood event, basically an extension of the natural floodplain."
reduceflooding.com/2 020/04/14/ron-holley -describes-his-visio n-for-forest-co
paving paradise, why can't we just leave it as nature/wetlands?
What zipcode will it be? Underwriters tend to evaluate risk on an entire zipcode for insurability. I sure hope this is not my zipcode, my rates would go so high even if I wasn't near that mess. Can you image the home owners shock paying $7-$10k for home insurance. They won't be able to get lower than that being in a flood zone ugh
Do we have any protected birds nesting there? That will stop them in their tracks!
Put a game cameras on it and around the area to deter anyone from disposing of it.
Wiseowl reacted Put a game cameras on it and around the area to deter anyone from disposing of it.
Lizvac: Does Mr Holley live in Kingwood or around these areas?
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