So I had an experience last week that I'm still trying to recove
So I had an experience last week that I'm still trying to recove
buffaloglenn : Yeah but they didn't call. The cops said there were no other calls. They didn't even stop, or look like they just saw a dead person. It's bizarre to have no reaction. But you're right, they are extremely distracted.
MissAmericanPie : Could it have been they didn't see her? Or maybe they've seen her do that before (homeless person) and knew she was just sleeping it off?
MissAmericanPie : Could it have been they didn't see her? Or maybe they've seen her do that before (homeless person) and knew she was just sleeping it off?
donnatella : Well they DID see her for sure but I never thought about the homeless person thing. I've never seen her before but I suppose anything is possible!
MissAmericanPie : I'm curious why she specified the cops. I don't expect injured people to think clearly, but if she had time to identify her immediate needs, it seems odd to specifically request law enforcement over medical assistance. I think most people would generically request that someone call 911. If they knew they were in need of medical assistance they may ask to either take them to an ER or request an ambulance. "Call the cops" sounds more like a crime victim to me.
Spork : I know, me too. I was kinda confused in that moment bc she looked dead, then started moving, then said call the cops! But she did not look ok. She was completely out of it, she had drool or vomit coming from her mouth…I thought maybe epileptic, or a seizure and she could have been easily confused herself.They sent both EMS and PD.
MissAmericanPie : God Bless you! I have heard that there is a homeless person living beside little Kroger and I have heard that she has mental problems. Shame on those kids for not knowing the urgency of the situation. Thank you for helping her. You are a hero in my eyes!
MissAmericanPie : Praying for your peace. That would be upsetting to put it mildly. It is 2025 and a different world than most of us grew up in so approaching someone has its own set of problems. Anyone, kids or adults, can phone for help from a safe distance. If not calling 911 then call parents. It's sad they didn't.
MissAmericanPie : God Bless you! I have heard that there is a homeless person living beside little Kroger and I have heard that she has mental problems. Shame on those kids for not knowing the urgency of the situation. Thank you for helping her. You are a hero in my eyes!
GiggleMugs : Oh wow. Do you anything else about her?
MissAmericanPie : Praying for your peace. That would be upsetting to put it mildly. It is 2025 and a different world than most of us grew up in so approaching someone has its own set of problems. Anyone, kids or adults, can phone for help from a safe distance. If not calling 911 then call parents. It's sad they didn't.
Kittle : You're right. It does have its own risks for sure. I was being very aware. I never got real close. It's just sad that things are this way.
MissAmericanPie : You are a wonderful person going out of your way to help. Regardless if it was a crime, health, or substance's issue, she needed help and you helped.
So I had an experience last week that I'm still trying to recover from….maybe emotionally more than anything. I was coming down Northpark like I have a million times and as I passed the Kroger and that last entrance right by the exit of the green belt there, my eye caught what I thought looked like a body lying on the ground…I couldn't stop fast enough there so I turned around and sped back to that area. I thought no way could it be a body, it's probably a giant dog breed which also alarmed me. ? As I got back to go into the green belt, 2 or 3 high school aged kids rode right by me on their bikes as I approached. and they never stopped or said anything and so I thought, it's a lump of clothes or something. Then I saw long hair and a woman all dressed in black. And yes, I was shaking at this point. It's just shocking and there's no other way to describe it. It was indeed a body of a female so I grabbed my phone and walked closer. The body started to move. I said are you alright??!! She then looked up and said, "No! Call the cops! So I dialed 911. They came. I don't know what happened to her. She may have been on drugs or had a seizure, I don't know. But she was alive. After I got home…I began to process it all and I just couldn't believe kids that age never stopped to check on her, never said a word to me, just rode past her on their phones…and they literally had to ride around her unconscious body to get by. There's something really WRONG with that. I don't know that happens? Isn't 15 old enough to care about a body lying on the ground…?
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MissAmericanPie : Sadly what you're describing has a name. It's called the bystander effect.
I usually is more prevalent in packed cities but has now observed more frequently throughout. Some attribute the rise in the behavior to the fact we now share an artificial digital community instead of just a physical one.
Three psychological factors are thought to facilitate bystander apathy: the feeling of having less responsibility when more bystanders are present (diffusion of responsibility), the fear of unfavorable public judgment when helping (evaluation apprehension), and the belief that because no one else is helping, the situation is not actually an emergency (pluralistic ignorance).
I am not saying this to raise alarms or anything but think of some of the behaviors exhibited online. People behave unfettered by social standards. Think of if everyone here behaved like they do in Fastlane in reality 24/7. Well, today's youth was raised with this screen behavior as a norm. There are always exceptions to the rule, yourself for example. You stopped and rendered aid. That said, you just saw those teens on bikes. How many others passed her and did nothing? We see threads on here all the time where empathy is void and still others that exhibit it. Sometimes the only behavior you can change is yourself and lead by example sadly.
So I had an experience last week that I'm still trying to recover from….maybe emotionally more than anything. I was coming down Northpark like I have a million times and as I passed the Kroger and that last entrance right by the exit of the green belt there, my eye caught what I thought looked like a body lying on the ground…I couldn't stop fast enough there so I turned around and sped back to that area. I thought no way could it be a body, it's probably a giant dog breed which also alarmed me. ? As I got back to go into the green belt, 2 or 3 high school aged kids rode right by me on their bikes as I approached. and they never stopped or said anything and so I thought, it's a lump of clothes or something. Then I saw long hair and a woman all dressed in black. And yes, I was shaking at this point. It's just shocking and there's no other way to describe it. It was indeed a body of a female so I grabbed my phone and walked closer. The body started to move. I said are you alright??!! She then looked up and said, "No! Call the cops! So I dialed 911. They came. I don't know what happened to her. She may have been on drugs or had a seizure, I don't know. But she was alive. After I got home…I began to process it all and I just couldn't believe kids that age never stopped to check on her, never said a word to me, just rode past her on their phones…and they literally had to ride around her unconscious body to get by. There's something really WRONG with that. I don't know that happens? Isn't 15 old enough to care about a body lying on the ground…?
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MissAmericanPie : Sorry this happened to shake you up so! I have to say you may have saved her life, though. There is no way my kids would have ridden by, and if they did, they would have gone to find an adult to help, or come right home, so we could go back, to render aid. BUT, that was Before cell phones. You Know those kids had one, and they can move a few yards away, and call, and should have. Compassion is important! It seems as though they were not even aware it was a human?! That is frankly, sad. You do not have stay Near a person, to help them, with a cell in the pocket of everyone, today!
MissAmericanPie : No...I've only heard stories on ND. The employees there may have more info on her.
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