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Ding-Dong-Ditch Gone Wrong

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PatrickStar 1.3 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:22am  
donnatella :
No, I do not agree at all. A front door doorbell is a common and accepted place for a stranger to approach a house regardless of time of day or night. If you do not want anyone there, you better fence and lock your property.
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MissAmericanPie Top Forum Contributor6.5 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:34am  
donnatella :
I'm wondering if the parents might bear some responsibility here? It is THEY who did not monitor this child. At that late hour and roaming the streets? Totally irresponsible and maybe even child endangerment?
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:38am  
donnatella : I'm wondering if the parents might bear some responsibility here? It is THEY who did not monitor this child. At that late hour and roaming the streets? Totally irresponsible and maybe even child endangerment?
 
MissAmericanPie :
The shooter and the child's estate can sue them for damages.
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rocket 17.4 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:38am  
PatrickStar : It's this kind of thinking and dismissing of bad behavior that has bought us an entire generation containing many kids completely out of control, with zero respect for authority, committing crimes and filling our jails because they were allowed to escape discipline and consequences.
 
donnatella :
I can agree to a point. BUT the colossal error this homeowner committed is once, according to reports, he was no longer under threat, as the perps were running down the street, it then became a murder.
 
Again, referring to available reports, he chased after the individuals firing his weapon as he went alone. Which explains the shots to the back of the child in question. Based upon the facts, if I were investigating this case, I would have recommend to the ADA that they consider filing charges as all the elements appear to be there to do so.
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MissAmericanPie Top Forum Contributor6.5 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:39am  
donnatella : No, I do not agree at all. A front door doorbell is a common and accepted place for a stranger to approach a house regardless of time of day or night. If you do not want anyone there, you better fence and lock your property.
 
PatrickStar : Many areas don't even allow a front yard fence as part of the HOA. Not sure where this was exactly.
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BillHouston 1.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:41am  
PatrickStar : This was not a 5-year old that just wandered onto the property. This was an 11-year old, intending to cause mischief at the very least. He knew it would cause surprise, shock and possibly fear given the time of night. He made a choice and that choice was the catalyst for the entire course of events. He did not deserve to die because of it, but he made a choice and took a calculated risk to do something he knew was wrong. He is not solely responsible but he does bear some responsibility, as do his parents, as does the homeowner that discharged his weapon.
 
donnatella :
Before you hoist that flag too high, I'd suggest a brief detour through the shooter's arrest record. Just a glance. Or don't. It is, after all, a free country. Still, perhaps, for everyone's sake, we all might simply agree to disagree and move on with our opinions?
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PatrickStar 1.3 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:42am  
MissAmericanPie :
Texas law allows fencing regardless of HOA regulations as of 2021.
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luv2eatsushi 19.3 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:42am  
PatrickStar : Many areas don't even allow a front yard fence as part of the HOA. Not sure where this was exactly.
 
MissAmericanPie :
 
East Houston. High crime area.
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MissAmericanPie Top Forum Contributor6.5 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:44am  
"Child endangerment in Texas is defined under Texas Penal Code Section 22.041. This law addresses situations where a child is placed in imminent danger of bodily injury or death due to the actions or omissions of a caregiver. Here are the key elements of the law:
 
Types of Offenses
Endangerment: A person commits an offense if they knowingly, intentionally, or recklessly engage in conduct that places a child in imminent danger of serious bodily injury.
Abandonment: Leaving a child in a situation where they are likely to suffer harm can also constitute endangerment.
Penalties
Class A Misdemeanor: Generally, child endangerment is classified as a Class A misdemeanor, punishable by up to one year in jail and/or a fine of up to $4,000.
Felony Charges: If the endangerment results in serious bodily injury or death, the charges can escalate to a felony, leading to more severe penalties.
Factors Considered
The age of the child, the nature of the danger, and the caregiver's intent are all considered in determining the severity of the offense.
For specific cases or legal advice, consulting a legal professional is recommended.
Related questions
What are the penalties for child endangerment in Texas?
How does Texas define child neglect?
What are the legal defenses against child endangerment charges?"
 
I just wonder, if the kid had been killed by a thug or a car at that time of night, if the parents hold no responsibility? According to the above, it's child endangerment?
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:45am  
PatrickStar : Many areas don't even allow a front yard fence as part of the HOA. Not sure where this was exactly.
 
MissAmericanPie :
9700 block of Racine
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rocket 17.4 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:48am  
I don't know if any of you remember or are aware of a case in Minnesota where these two kids repeatedly broke into a man's house. Well, the short version is he pretended to leave the house that day. Parked his vehicle around the corner so that the kids wouldn't think he was home.
 
Sure enough, a teenaged boy and girl broke in. He audio recorded himself killing both of them. He was convicted of murder. Now, much like here there were arguments that had the kids not broken in they'd still be alive. However, a jury concluded that the man went too far.
 
www.nbcnews.com/news /us-news/minnesota-h omeowner-byron-smith -convicted-prem
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mutton Top Forum Contributor11.9 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:51am  
I don't know if any of you remember or are aware of a case in Minnesota where these two kids repeatedly broke into a man's house. Well, the short version is he pretended to leave the house that day. Parked his vehicle around the corner so that the kids wouldn't think he was home. Sure enough, a teenaged boy and girl broke in. He audio recorded himself killing both of them. He was convicted of murder. Now, much like here there were arguments that had the kids not broken in they'd still be alive. However, a jury concluded that the man went too far. www.nbcnews.com/news /us-news/minnesota-h omeowner-byron-smith -convicted-prem
 
rocket : But he pre meditated and even made recording. Why did he not hold them at gun point and call 911? This case was shown on one of the ID shows.
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mutton Top Forum Contributor11.9 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Sep 2, '25 11:54am  
I don't know if any of you remember or are aware of a case in Minnesota where these two kids repeatedly broke into a man's house. Well, the short version is he pretended to leave the house that day. Parked his vehicle around the corner so that the kids wouldn't think he was home. Sure enough, a teenaged boy and girl broke in. He audio recorded himself killing both of them. He was convicted of murder. Now, much like here there were arguments that had the kids not broken in they'd still be alive. However, a jury concluded that the man went too far. www.nbcnews.com/news /us-news/minnesota-h omeowner-byron-smith -convicted-prem
 
rocket : Meant to add gun owner shooting the ding donger went far beyond what he should/could have done.
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