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Alberto AI forecast results + this week's forecast.

Alberto AI forecast results + this week's forecast.
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StormChaser 19.5 yrs
~ 2 years, 4 mos ago   Jun 20, '24 7:27am  
Alberto AI forecast results + this week's forecast.
 
An interesting read from Space City on the forecast breakdown of Alberto now that AI is in play in forecasting.
 
Euro AI's (AIFS) first hurricane forecast did not do well. The standard GFS (American) model did a much better job as far as location, but - in the end, most of the models were wrong. I do think the addition of AI will eventually be a helpful tool, but it's still too early to rely on that completely so it's good to look at all the models, as this post explains.
 
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From Space City Weather:
 
Weather Settles Down, How Did The New AI Models Do With Tropical Storm Alberto?
 
Eric Berger · Thursday, June 20, 2024 6:55 AM
 
In brief:
 
*Tropical Storm Alberto is about the move inland into Mexico, ending the threat of tropical rainfall across the Houston metro area.
*However, we are still likely to see at least some scattered showers and thunderstorms for several days-mostly passing downpours.
*After a few days with highs around 90 degrees, we'll start to warm up this weekend into the low- to mid-90s.
 
HOW DID THE NEW AI MODELS DO?
 
*Recently, I mentioned that Matt and I were assessing the value of relatively new weather forecast models, which are based in machine learning.
*These AI-based models have been 'trained' on historical datasets and have shown some promise in limited testing.
*They're now starting to become publicly available in real-time, and we'll be using them for the Atlantic hurricane season.
 
You can find some of them here:
 
climatlas.com/temper ature/graph/
 
Anyway, the evolution of Alberto offered the season's first test.
 
*Last Friday, the models offered a distinct difference in forecasts.
*The majority of traditional, physics based models that crunch through complex physical equations to reproduce the atmosphere, produced a system that remained largely in the Southern Gulf of Mexico.
 
*I saved the output from the U.S.-based Global Forecast System model that was initialized on Friday morning.
 
Here is its five-day forecast for the morning of Wednesday, June 19:
 
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*At the same time, the AI-based version of the European model, or AIFS, had for several runs been bringing Alberto much further north, toward the central Texas coast.
 
This is what the output from the model, initialized at the same time as the GFS model shown above, looked like for Wednesday, June 19:
 
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*That is a lot different, and certainly would have been more eye-popping for the Houston area.
*I frequently appear on the Houston Matters radio program with Craig Cohen, and we discussed this difference in output at the time.
 
I told him it would be a good test.
 
*Five days later, on Wednesday morning, here's where the tropical system, which had just formed as Tropical Storm Alberto, was:
 
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*As you can see, the physics-based GFS model was spot on, whereas the AI-based model misfired. This was not universally true, but the majority of physics-based models were much closer on track accuracy.
*Whereas the AI-based models tended to have a more northerly track for Alberto though Huawei's Pangu model was a notable exception, nailing the position.
 
In our forecasts at Space City Weather, we relied on the physics-based models since they seemed more in-line with the overall atmospheric setup.
 
None of the models did a great job with precipitation. There were several runs where the GFS model splashed 25 inches of rainfall over Houston, and the AI models that have rainfall outputs were also considerably more bullish than what Houston ultimately experienced.
 
In any case, it's going to be a long hurricane season. One test case proves nothing, but nevertheless I thought it was interesting to share.
 
This week's forecast:
 
THURSDAY
 
*In terms of precipitation, showers will be considerably more scattered today after much of Houston picked up 1 to 2 inches of rainfall on Wednesday.
*The most likely time for showers will be this afternoon, but they could come at any time, especially for coastal areas.
*Skies will turn partly sunny this afternoon, with highs of about 90 degrees.
*Lows tonight will drop into the mid-70s.
 
FRIDAY
 
*Another partly sunny day, with perhaps a 30 to 50 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms.
*Most of this activity will be fleeting. Highs will be around 90 degrees, with lows again in the mid-70s.
 
SATURDAY
 
*Skies should be mostly sunny, with highs in the low- to mid-90s.
*Rain chances will be much lower, perhaps on the order of 10 percent.
 
SUNDAY AND BEYOND
 
*Our weather for next week is a bit uncertain due to the development of another tropical disturbance in the Southern Gulf of Mexico.
*However, this system is likely to be smaller, with lesser impacts. As a result I don't think we'll see nearly the winds and high seas we experienced from Alberto.
*Rather, for Sunday and most of next week, I expect we'll see partly to mostly sunny skies, highs in the low- to mid-90s, and a decent daily chance of showers as tropical moisture pushes in from the Gulf.
*At this time there is no clear threat of heavy rainfall. So the weather looks pretty typical for late June.
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jrjtex 9.6 yrs
~ 2 years, 4 mos ago   Jun 20, '24 8:05am  
StormChaser :
It will probably take no time for AI to catch up. More information, the better.
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luannski Top Forum Contributor14.2 yrs
~ 2 years, 4 mos ago   Jun 20, '24 8:21am  
How does it compare to The Farmers Almanac?
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Labslady 5.5 yrs
~ 2 years, 4 mos ago   Jun 20, '24 9:35am  
Reporting from AZ
The eastern horizon is a tiny bit darker and hazy this AM- the sun isn't its usual bright death ray. Some of it could be smoke blown from the wild fires in NM. We have our best chance of a monsoon today at 20%! Hope we get some rain- I will post pictures if we do 🤣
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