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buddyboy 18.6 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:44pm  
What is tbis about?
 
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:45pm  
Turkeytrax 2 to over 3% voter fraud is not a passing comment.  That is massive fraud. 4951
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CC1974 10.8 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:49pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
mulmye: Here’s the relevant transcript of the question by Gina Rodriguez and the president: RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us? OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
CC1974: You tell me where he is encouraging illegal voting.  The answer is based on the premise that when you register you are vetted for eligibility to register as a voter.  bIs that not the case?  He said, "...first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself."  The key word is "citizen."
 
 
 
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Rodriguez, the interviewer, referred to them as undocumented citizens. She asked it they vote will immigration look them up and deport them.
 
Then Obama uses the word citizen, referring to the same group of people that Rodriguez is questioning him about. He says the voter rolls are not checked so the government will not look for them and deport them.
 
This whole conversation was about the undocumented being able to vote. Rodriguez said she used the word citizen because they contribute to our country, not because they are legal citizens.
 
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sweetie Online Top Forum Contributor14.4 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:52pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
mulmye: Here’s the relevant transcript of the question by Gina Rodriguez and the president: RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us? OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
CC1974: You tell me where he is encouraging illegal voting.  The answer is based on the premise that when you register you are vetted for eligibility to register as a voter.  bIs that not the case?  He said, "...first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself."  The key word is "citizen."
 
 
 
mulmye:
 
Rodriguez, the interviewer, referred to them as undocumented citizens. She asked it they vote will immigration look them up and deport them.
 
Then Obama uses the word citizen, referring to the same group of people that Rodriguez is questioning him about. He says the voter rolls are not checked so the government will not look for them and deport them.
 
This whole conversation was about the undocumented being able to vote. Rodriguez said she used the word citizen because they contribute to our country, not because they are legal citizens.
 
If they were legal citizens why would there be concern about being deported?
 
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Of course they are illegals. Obama was encouraging illegals. Totally disgusting of the president. 4951
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turkeytrax 19 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:52pm  
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turkeytrax: yet you used it as info to bolster your viewpoint. why would you use it in that context?
 
 
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@Veritas: You didn't understand why I mentioned unverified illegal votes?  I was making the point that many sources have reported voter fraud, some are verified and some are not... the 3 mill claim was one of the unverified claims that I saw on the news. All told, there are allegations of millions of illegal votes. But verifying each claim would be so very time consuming and expensive.  There's no point in going to the expense and time to prove voter fraud when the election was last year and there is important business to be done.So, that one allegation was not used to bolster my viewpoint on voter fraud, because my viewpoint is that voter fraud in the 2017 election doesn't matter.  See?
 
 
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turkeytrax 19 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 4:57pm  
Turkeytrax 2 to over 3% voter fraud is not a passing comment.  That is massive fraud.

mulmye: But the whole thing was blown up into a story because someone overheard Trump make a "comment in passing" that the voter fraud was in the millions.  Just because he said that doesn't in any way mean that he intends to waste time proving exactly how many votes were illegal ones.  Voter fraud does count in the grand scheme, but I would be very much against the president spending any minutes of his time delving into voter fraud instead of handling business.  It doesn't matter how many votes were cast illegally for Hillary, she lost. Trumps' win can't be made any more valid by counting more votes for him or subtracting from Hillary's total. 4951
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sweetie Online Top Forum Contributor14.4 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:01pm  
I think Trump shouldn't spend another minute on trying to convince the left that he would have had more votes if illegals didn't vote. It's over and he won. I think he's doing this because the left is trying to delegitimitze his election. He's done more since Friday for the good of the country than Obama did in his 8 years. 4951
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:02pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
mulmye: Here’s the relevant transcript of the question by Gina Rodriguez and the president: RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us? OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
CC1974: You tell me where he is encouraging illegal voting.  The answer is based on the premise that when you register you are vetted for eligibility to register as a voter.  bIs that not the case?  He said, "...first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself."  The key word is "citizen."
mulmye: Rodriguez, the interviewer, referred to them as undocumented citizens. She asked it they vote will immigration look them up and deport them. Then Obama uses the word citizen, referring to the same group of people that Rodriguez is questioning him about. He says the voter rolls are not checked so the government will not look for them and deport them. This whole conversation was about the undocumented being able to vote. Rodriguez said she used the word citizen because they contribute to our country, not because they are legal citizens. If they were legal citizens why would there be concern about being deported?
CC1974: 1.  Mr. Obama's answer does not include a qualifier for the term citizens.   2 .  There are "undocumented" citizens.  I f you are not carrying documents that prove your citizenship when you are stopped for a broken taillight, in some jurisdictions you may be detained until you can secure proof.  Do you carry your birth certificate or passport at all times?  What if you go to vote and you, despite having legally registered 40 years ago are challenged based on your looks, what document are you required to present so that you are not arrested for felony attempt to vote illegally? 4951
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CC1974 10.8 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:07pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
mulmye: Here’s the relevant transcript of the question by Gina Rodriguez and the president: RODRIGUEZ: Many of the millennials, Dreamers, undocumented citizens — and I call them citizens because they contribute to this country — are fearful of voting. So if I vote, will immigration know where I live? Will they come for my family and deport us? OBAMA: Not true. And the reason is, first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, etc. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for. If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote.
CC1974: You tell me where he is encouraging illegal voting.  The answer is based on the premise that when you register you are vetted for eligibility to register as a voter.  bIs that not the case?  He said, "...first of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself."  The key word is "citizen."
mulmye: Rodriguez, the interviewer, referred to them as undocumented citizens. She asked it they vote will immigration look them up and deport them. Then Obama uses the word citizen, referring to the same group of people that Rodriguez is questioning him about. He says the voter rolls are not checked so the government will not look for them and deport them. This whole conversation was about the undocumented being able to vote. Rodriguez said she used the word citizen because they contribute to our country, not because they are legal citizens. If they were legal citizens why would there be concern about being deported?
CC1974: 1.  Mr. Obama's answer does not include a qualifier for the term citizens.   2 .  There are "undocumented" citizens.  I f you are not carrying documents that prove your citizenship when you are stopped for a broken taillight, in some jurisdictions you may be detained until you can secure proof.  Do you carry your birth certificate or passport at all times?  What if you go to vote and you, despite having legally registered 40 years ago are challenged based on your looks, what document are you required to present so that you are not arrested for felony attempt to vote illegally?
 
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The interview was about undocumented people, voting and being deported. If you can't see that then you choose to ignore what the focus of the interview was about. 4951
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:09pm  

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mulmye: But the whole thing was blown up into a story because someone overheard Trump make a "comment in passing" that the voter fraud was in the millions.  Just because he said that doesn't in any way mean that he intends to waste time proving exactly how many votes were illegal ones.  Voter fraud does count in the grand scheme, but I would be very much against the president spending any minutes of his time delving into voter fraud instead of handling business.  It doesn't matter how many votes were cast illegally for Hillary, she lost. Trumps' win can't be made any more valid by counting more votes for him or subtracting from Hillary's total.
turkeytrax: Mr. Trump's statement to the Republican congressional leadership was not overheard or in passing.  Voter fraud is business.  I do not dispute the validity of the result.  The White House does.  I wish that nonsense would stop or that it would be investigated. 
 
 
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:21pm  
cc1974You are understanding what your conspirational mind wants to understand.  My mind , in my opinion, reads the words. Conservative legal scholars, i.e. the late Justice Scalia, call it native language.  A word not included in a statement can not be construed to be there.  Then President Obama did not utter the word "illegal."  Intellectual discipline is not discretionary, 4951
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CC1974 10.8 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:27pm  
cc1974You are understanding what your conspirational mind wants to understand.  My mind , in my opinion, reads the words. Conservative legal scholars, i.e. the late Justice Scalia, call it native language.  A word not included in a statement can not be construed to be there.  Then President Obama did not utter the word "illegal."  Intellectual discipline is not discretionary,
 
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I disagree. You my friend are seeing what you want to see. Let's just say we disagree on this topic. 4951
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:32pm  

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mulmye: I disagree. You my friend are seeing what you want to see. Let's just say we disagree on this topic.
CC1974: Of course we disagree but I do not agree I am not being rigorous in my reading of what Mr. Obama said.  If he had encouraged illegal voting I would be saying he should be indicted not just casting aspersions.
 
 
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coco1248 10.4 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:33pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
 
 

mulmye: Today is today, yesterday is PAST. So, is Barack Hussein Obama. He is now PAST, those who got screwed with his policies voted. Those loyal to him DID NOT. So, let us turn the PAGE and start afresh, MOVE ON.. Like it or not Obama was my POTUS when he was there, he ain't no more. So, my, and your POTUS is Donald J. Trump. I repeat like it or not. Your POTUS Emoticon 
 
 
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mulmye 10.1 yrs
~ 9 years ago   Jan 24, '17 5:56pm  

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>> id no one is going to come find them and deport them. Dems said their was only confirmation of 4 voter fraud and one lady voted twice for Trump. These are the same people who said if you like your Dr you can keep your D
sweetie: Stop spreading falsehoods.  That is not what Mr. Obama said and you should know better.  8th Dante level for you.
mulmye: Today is today, yesterday is PAST. So, is Barack Hussein Obama. He is now PAST, those who got screwed with his policies voted. Those loyal to him DID NOT. So, let us turn the PAGE and start afresh, MOVE ON.. Like it or not Obama was my POTUS when he was there, he ain't no more. So, my, and your POTUS is Donald J. Trump. I repeat like it or not. Your POTUS Emoticon 
coco1248: I do not question the validity of the vote.  Mr. Trump does and given that he is my president, it concerns me.
 
 
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