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Marijuana vs. Alcohol: Which Is Really Worse for Your Health?

Marijuana vs. Alcohol: Which Is Really Worse for Your Health?

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mdizzle Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:26am  
yet people still believe that (marijuana can be a violence inducing drug or cause your brain to literally operate differently in a violent/criminal way)
 
The Attorney General is still purporting this! Only this time it's to save money for big pharma, or support for profit prisons. Or maybe he's just old and out of touch w/ reality. Regardless, our president doesn't seem to mind a federal crack down on mj, so it's got to be $ based. Forget what the people want, or what science proves to be true, if it hurts the bottom line. 4951
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reinamilt Active Indicator LED Icon 6
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:30am  
reinamilt Fine with me! I'm tired of tax-payer dollars paying for non-violent drug offenders in prison. That is silly in my opinion. I'd rather my money be spent on better things and I think the government takes control too far, telling citizens what they can and can't do in their own homes on their own time with their own bodies is insane to me. If they were negatively affecting other citizens, then the gov has a right to step in, but this is too Big Brother for my taste. I think the government needs to leave citizens who mind their own business alone.
 
@Elizabethh I agree with you 100% 4951
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cador Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:32am  
The laws are already getting way more lax (even where it's not legal)-even in Tx where I believe anything under 2 oz's is a ticket now. A buddy of mine had a roach in his ashtray 15 yrs or so ago and went to jail and has probation for several yrs from it. 4951
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Elizabethh Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:34am  
anything under 2 oz's is a ticket now.
 
@cador That only applies first time offenders, and they still have to go to court and the charge is treated just the same (ie, they will either have to be put on probation or server jail time) they just don't have to go to jail right that very moment. 4951
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Metro07 Active Indicator LED Icon 3
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:36am  
What's worse? I guess it depends on if you ask the drunk or the pot head. 4951
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Elizabethh Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:37am  
What's worse? I guess it depends on if you ask the drunk or the pot head.
 
@Metro07 No, I think you should ask the statistics about marijuana related deaths in car accidents.... 4951
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cador Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:38am  
cador That only applies first time offenders, and they still have to go to court and the charge is treated just the same (ie, they will either have to be put on probation or server jail time) they just don't have to go to jail right that very moment.
 
@Elizabethh Wow! Did not know that. Should be a ticket to pay and be done-I'm not sure the limit needs to be that high-should be no reason you're running around town with 2 oz's-maybe 1/2 oz and under alil ticket-but I don't make the laws. 4951
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Elizabethh Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:41am  
Elizabethh Wow! Did not know that. Should be a ticket to pay and be done-I'm not sure the limit needs to be that high-should be no reason you're running around town with 2 oz's-maybe 1/2 oz and under alil ticket-but I don't make the laws.
 
@cador I agree with you! If someone is just driving home and has some pot in their car but have done nothing involving anybody else, why would I care? I think that falls under "none of my business". 4951
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TheWizard Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:45am  
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Elizabethh Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 11:57am  
Elizabethh I'm sorry to hear that you know a lot of kids that smoke. I'm even more sorry if you condone the practice of kids smoking pot. I know and have known a lot of potheads, both adults and kids, having been a part of that world most of my life. I realize they aren't all apathetic and lazy. They are almost all paranoid though. Anyone that's doing something that's illegal on a regular basis will naturally be paranoid to a point. They have, however, limited their choices in life based on their belief system. With Dvaz 's friend being an exception to the rule, most businesses drug test. Even in states where pot is legal, they drug test. I understand that businesses hiring low-paid warehouse workers or ditch diggers won't necessarily test these applicant's, but I doubt that there are too many engineering or aerospace companies hiring without a drug test. The point is you limit yourself, and after a while it becomes second-nature to just write things off completely. Law enforcement? Nah. Military? Unlikely, Engineering and Aerospace? Probably not. Insurance? Banking? Maybe, if you're a good faker and have access to baby pee.. Arts and Entertainment? There ya' go! Teaching? Could be your calling. Drug use is limiting, and the mindset is limiting. You will be "cool", and so you will tend to only seek "cool" people to hang out with, thus limiting yourself further. Over time, it will usually develop into a you vs them mentality, and this thread, my friends, is a perfect example.
 
@TheWizard I condone the practice of people making their own decision in their own life. I understand everything you are saying but if that were enough to influence laws, alcohol should overwhelmingly be outlawed. At least there is science to back up how alcohol literally destroys your body and the number of fatal car accidents relating to alcohol is depressing (in the US, its approx 28 per day, about 1 death every 51 minutes directly resulting from an alcohol related car accident). If marijuana were federally legal, I would totally understand random drug tests to see if an employee is high WHILE at work. But again, I don't think it's a companies business what someone does in their personal free time. You don't see employers testing employees for alcohol use. That is solely because its legal. Very soon, people will be forced to look at marijuana differently if they even want to have a staff to employ. It has massively become accepted in younger people and eventually, those younger people will be making and changing laws (and they will also be the business owners, who determine whether or not they drug test their employees). I don't personally believe anyone has the right to tell me what to do in my free time, not the government or an employer. I also disagree on marijuana being "limiting on a brain". I truly believe marijuana smokers have more active brains and imaginations. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 12:06pm  
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~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 12:07pm  
@Elizabethh
 
while I have no dog in this hunt...don't smoke, didn't smoke, don't plan on smoking....you very nearly had me until you said this I truly believe marijuana smokers have more active brains and imaginations. I worked with a guy who regularly got high, and felt his creativity increase. it did not enhance his creativity, just made him slower in his work and more reliant on drugs. it was a gateway drug for him. he went from casual user to daily, then on to be a casual cocaine user, to a daily cocaine user. the odd thing, he could not hold his liquor and knew it. he would not drink at all, but saw nothing wrong with getting high - smoking or snorting - before, during and after work. it finally destroyed his career and his health. this all took place over 20 years ago. he finally got clean and I saw him about 5 years ago, looked better than I had ever seen and was in the rebuilding process of his career - sober. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 12:10pm  
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Elizabethh Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 12:11pm  
Elizabethh I never said pot was limiting on a brain. I said entrance into, acceptance of, and participation in a culture that is pro-drug will limit a person's choices in life. And that means they're perfectly capable of making those decisions at the ripe age of 13 or 14? Like they have any clue? You know what they have? Peer pressure. A need to feel accepted as part of a group. Any group. The icing on the pot cake is that it both makes you an instant part of a "cool" group and it makes you feel good! Thanks dopamine! See you tomorrow! Come by my car that my parents bought for me in the morning and we'll get high before history class and grin at all the un-cool people there! Together!
 
@TheWizard Well at 13 or 14, no but you don't get the full citizens rights here in the US until you're 18 anyways so of course I would think that isn't their choice then. It the parents choice. I'm talking about adults in the work place and their rights to make their own decisions. 13 and 14 years old need to in school, not smoking. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Jan 22, '18 12:12pm  
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