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Men accused of heckling Joel Osteen found not guilty

Men accused of heckling Joel Osteen found not guilty

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Burnsway Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 4:16pm  

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>> What is Joel Osteen preaching that is misleading people?
 
@CC1974: It is what he is not teaching. Church is not about how YOU deserve to be prosperous and how YOU are in control of your acquisitions. That's part of the whole prosperity doctrine, to motivate the parishioners to get more and earn more so they can give more. It's all self-centered and shallow, nothing what church should be focused on.
 
@donnatella:
 
Actually if more people read AND STUDIED the whole bible and stop spinning it for their agendas..(not directed at you)..it actually does teach that you were destined for greatness and abundance. The whole money is the root of all evil is a mis interpeted and used quote. It was meant that we are not to worship money over him, not that being rich is evil. Same goes with the whole camel through the eye of the needle thingy. The good Lord knew many people rich would use it to be selfish and for evil so he put warnings out there but it does not teach being rich is evil or that we will not be great or abundant. The church over the years have been real bad about pointing out scriptures of judgement and sin and all the scary negative stuff and lack pointing out his true forgiveness, love and blessings and all the positive stuff designed just for you.
 

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~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 4:59pm  
I am not religious and I would NEVER consider going to ANY church to disrupt their minister/preacher/priest in a service.  That's not only rude but you are forcing your views on members of that church.  I don't like Joel Osteen or his bi$#h wife, but he has a right to conduct his business.  As others have mentioned, the only question is whether his church is really a church and deserves tax-free status.  I believe @ProblemAgain covered this issue pretty well.The other factor involved in this incident is that the four disruptors are from a supposedly radical Church of Wells.  Wells is a small east Texas town.  Several citizens from Wells attended the hearing hoping that the four disruptors "would be handcuffed and put in prison orange".  Apparently, the church has alienated many Wells citizens?!?I have a feeling we'll be hearing more about the Church of Wells in the future.  There is quite a bit of information about this church on the internet. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 6:37pm  
I am NOT a Joel Osteen fan at all. He is only a motivational speaker in my opinion. However, who are we to say how Joel Osteen should live his life? How much has he given to the community and to others? How much is too much? Are you his judge? Doesn't the Bible speak about judging others?
 
I believe we have a lot of hypocrites among us, Kingwood. Not surprising...they are everywhere.
 
Oh, and about the heckling...that just opened the floodgates for others to do the same everywhere. Here we go:
 
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CC1974 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 9:22pm  
I don't know where Joel Osteen ' s heart lies. He says he is a Christian who loves the Lord, so whom am I to say he isn't. I do know he preaches a message of love which is addressed in the book of Corinthians. I also believe people have come to know Jesus through his messages. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 10:36pm  
I don't know where Joel Osteen ' s heart lies. He says he is a Christian who loves the Lord, so whom am I to say he isn't. I do know he preaches a message of love which is addressed in the book of Corinthians. I also believe people have come to know Jesus through his messages.
 
@CC1974:
You can know Jesus all you want but that doesn't mean anything in the end if you didn't live the word. The word being the instructions left to us in the bible.
Many people go to college & study for a good job and in return have a good paying job and a easier life
but as a Christian we are suppose to study the word of God to live like he asked of us and in return we are promised Heaven forever.
 
Most people don't acknowledge God until they are in a Great Need or dying but that in my opinion is wrong because they were too busy their whole lives living for themselves and putting God aside.
 
Judge me all you want but God has taken me out of alot of situations (cancer being one) and he has provided for me like you wouldn't even imagine. So in my opinion you get what you put in. And I don't rely on a pastor or anyone to teach me anything I take it upon myself to learn and study the word on a daily basis. I have a church & I love my pastors but they aren't the one to judge me in the end. GOD IS.
 

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~ 7 years ago   Jun 23, '16 10:49pm  
I am not religious and I would NEVER consider going to ANY church to disrupt their minister/preacher/priest in a service.  That's not only rude but you are forcing your views on members of that church.  I don't like Joel Osteen or his bi$#h wife, but he has a right to conduct his business.  As others have mentioned, the only question is whether his church is really a church and deserves tax-free status.  I believe @ProblemAgain covered this issue pretty well.The other factor involved in this incident is that the four disruptors are from a supposedly radical Church of Wells.  Wells is a small east Texas town.  Several citizens from Wells attended the hearing hoping that the four disruptors "would be handcuffed and put in prison orange".  Apparently, the church has alienated many Wells citizens?!?I have a feeling we'll be hearing more about the Church of Wells in the future.  There is quite a bit of information about this church on the internet.
 
@Retired_Engineer: they haven't messed with the citizens as far as recruiting them. That's straight fire & brimstone Bible Belt (thus the fist fights that have occurred at community events.) Best I can figure they're a ponzi/pyramid scheme masked as a church. Elders are really young guys and they're convincing people (girls mostly with no local family) to sell everything they own and "buy into" the cult. They bought property before people figured them out and opened a store that really should be bankrupt without internet donations. No one within a several county radius actually wants them there and routinely express that position. They'll get forced out at some point.
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 24, '16 12:02am  
you all see the world from where you yourself stand so there is no right answer or 'righter' answer. now that people have devolved to bickering about 'my religion's better than yours', the thread may have run its course 4951
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