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bb1976 1.8 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
edit: never mind...led astray by the greybox
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jv339 Top Forum Contributor6.9 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Joe :
Thanks for photos, a lot happening today in Kingwood!❤️
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Sophos2 1.2 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Joe : You should have passed out KDC cards and let them know about this forum so they can actually converse with people about their issues. I want to learn why it is necessary to interfere with law enforcement rather than engage in the passion of activism to change the law. If you change the law, the agency that enforces it has no justification to exist. I want to learn why people are being trained to break laws in order to interfere with public safety measures (enforcing Congressional laws). That seems like people are being used as pawns to put their lives, safety, freedom, and employment at risk simply for the purpose of spreading false and misleading information. I'd like to discuss that with them. You also left out the lady with the Gestapo sign and the one with images of pigs wearing police uniforms. They didn't seem like they were prepared for an intelligent conversation. Those kind of theatrics are a great way to let other people know that you cannot be reasoned with. I wish those people would post here so we can talk. I can read their signs but I have follow up questions. The opportunity to engage here is 24/7 and not the narrow limited hours of their exhibition where people interested in conversation have to find a place to park, and then begin hunting for someone willing and able to engage in a well reasoned conversation.
 
Spork :
Here's a basic conversation starter.
These are the current guidelines set by DHS that are applicable to the situation being protest.
 
Department of Homeland Security (DHS) maintains specific policies governing how law enforcement officers (LEOs), including ICE and CBP agents, must position themselves near vehicles and when they may use force against them:
 
⭐ Avoidance of Danger: DHS policy mandates that LEOs should always avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions-such as standing directly in front of a vehicle-where they would have no alternative but to use deadly force.
 
⭐ Requirement to Move: When a vehicle poses an imminent threat, officers are expected to pursue all "objectively reasonable defensive options," which explicitly include moving out of the path of the vehicle before resorting to lethal force.
 
⭐ Prohibition on Shooting at Vehicles: Discharging a firearm at a moving vehicle or its operator is generally prohibited unless the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject poses an imminent threat of death or serious injury.
 
⭐ Disabling Vehicles: Officers are strictly prohibited from firing at a vehicle solely to disable it or to prevent a suspect from fleeing.
 
⭐ Public Safety Considerations: Before using force against a vehicle, LEOs must consider the hazards posed to innocent bystanders, as a vehicle with a disabled driver can become an unguided "missile".
 
The case of Kirby vs Duva from 2008 sets precedent that an officer can not use self defense as a justification for lethal force if they unreasonably place themselves in harm's way. Nor can an officer shoot at a fleeing vehicle for the sole purpose of stopping it because of the danger it poses to other civilians in the area. ICE does not have the legal authority to make a traffic stop and escalate the situation.

www.courtlistener.co m/opinion/1189741/es tate-of-kirby-v-duva /?
 
In his previous incident where the officer was dragged by a car he was given a minor administrative slap on the wrist. He was then put back into active service to repeat the actions he was admonished for with different and more fatal results. In his own video we see her say to him "I'm not even mad at you dude." Her partner was outside the vehicle actively chastising him. She didn't seem to slam hard on the gas until after she'd been shot in the face. His video didn't seem to show him being hit to any extreme measure. It did record him dropping his phone while shots were being fired. These can be seen from a variety of angles. After which he picked it up and said "******* *****".
More video shows the officer in question walking around after without apparent physical harm that would put him on deaths door. Video also showed officers delaying medical aid that was already available in order to wait for official aid to be applied. Did I miss anything in this summary?
Also, if anyone wishes to debate the rules, regulations, law, etc that can and in some cases should have been applied please feel free to reply.
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TownHubAdmin Top Forum Contributor4.7 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Joe :
 
You should have passed out KDC cards and let them know about this forum so they can actually converse with people about their issues.
 
I want to learn why it is necessary to interfere with law enforcement rather than engage in the passion of activism to change the law. If you change the law, the agency that enforces it has no justification to exist.
 
I want to learn why people are being trained to break laws in order to interfere with public safety measures (enforcing Congressional laws). That seems like people are being used as pawns to put their lives, safety, freedom, and employment at risk simply for the purpose of spreading false and misleading information. I'd like to discuss that with them.
 
You also left out the lady with the Gestapo sign and the one with images of pigs wearing police uniforms. They didn't seem like they were prepared for an intelligent conversation. Those kind of theatrics are a great way to let other people know that you cannot be reasoned with.
 
I wish those people would post here so we can talk. I can read their signs but I have follow up questions. The opportunity to engage here is 24/7 and not the narrow limited hours of their exhibition where people interested in conversation have to find a place to park, and then begin hunting for someone willing and able to engage in a well reasoned conversation.
 
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Sophos2 1.2 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Nesracc : a video was posted earlier in this thread and a follow up comment about it of some idiot nearly losing control of his truck dangerously close to protesters. thanks for your concern.
 
bb1976 :
I think that this was a bit of satire like Johnathan Swift's A Modest Proposal. If not it's just a 😲 statement.
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bb1976 1.8 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
I think that this was a bit of satire
 
Sophos2 : yes, one of my new years resolutions was to add a sarcasterisk to any of my sarcastic posts. i have already broken it.
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Sophos2 1.2 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Sophos2 : yes, one of my new years resolutions was to add a sarcasterisk to any of my sarcastic posts. i have already broken it.
 
bb1976 :
I was more referring to the grey post. Either way carry on. 👍
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Texvette 12 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
FreebyrdII : I hope so. At least they would have accomplished one meaningful task
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Nesracc 8.6 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
bb1976 :
What
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cbear Online Top Forum Contributor15.6 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Wow, lots of people out there, in support for Mahad Abdulkadir Yusuf, he had a prior conviction for criminal sexual conduct in the first degree after he forced a victim to perform oral sex on him multiple times, according to ICE. Additionally, the agency said Yusuf was arrested in 2016 for first-degree assault and has an active warrant from 2024 for obstructing police. Then Good goes out there to impede his capture, but then finds out.
 
elguapo : How anyone could defend a "non resident of the US and a sexual predator" is beyond me.
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Sophos2 1.2 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
elguapo : How anyone could defend a "non resident of the US and a sexual predator" is beyond me.
 
cbear :
Because she didn't. One does not connect to the other and is false narrative.
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Zakangel 6.9 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
Does anyone know the significance of the bunny costume?
 
OBSD68 : No bunny knows
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cbear Online Top Forum Contributor15.6 yrs
~ 9 mos ago    
cbear : Because she didn't. One does not connect to the other and is false narrative.
 
Sophos2 : Lets say you are right. We will ignore it for now. So much video favors Jonathan Ross vs Renee Good. Audio sounds are extremely helpful too in the video. You could hear her reving the engine to ready the vehicle for ambush.
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