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Multi-Agency No Refusal Initiative Targets Drunk Drivers in Harr

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bigcity 3.7 yrs App
~ 2 years, 10 mos ago   Dec 30, '23 2:51pm  
Airborne319: Isn't the key word intoxicated. Are you saying if I, for instance, drink one, maybe 2 beers and I get stopped, the police smell alcohol an arrest ensues(this assumes no other traffic violation occurs)?
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Airborne319 3.2 yrs
~ 2 years, 10 mos ago   Dec 30, '23 2:56pm  
bigcity :
No - what they are saying is that if they pull you over you cannot refuse a breathalyzer or you go to jail.
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Airborne319 3.2 yrs
~ 2 years, 10 mos ago   Dec 30, '23 3:04pm  
Airborne319 : I don't see where a duly convicted DUI offender being required to have a safe mechanism on their vehicle as profiling. I do see it as an added restriction based on a previous and existing record that was earned.
 
Maver1ck : Just to reset this - my understanding is that profiling as it was defined for law enforcement purposes - is the use of predictive data to slim the target pool of suspects to likely perps. In the case of terrorism, statistics proved that military aged Muslim men from countries with a history of radicalization were far more likely to be terrorists than a white middle aged lady from Kingwood. When federal law enforcement was found to be using this information to target people, profiling was deemed to be bad. So - isn't that exactly what forcing someone who once had a DUI to breathe into a breathalyzer is? Aren't we profiling someone? If so, are we saying that its okay when the DUIs are involved, but not terrorism? That just makes no sense at all legally. Its either bad or its not. Again the issue is not the DUI. Its the inconsistency of the application of good and bad.
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Airborne319 3.2 yrs
~ 2 years, 10 mos ago   Dec 30, '23 3:12pm  
Airborne319 : Well, in the case of a convicted DUI offender I think anything reasonable that can be done to stop a reoccurrence is something worth considering. I do agree with you on your other points and I think the practice first described in this thread will be challenged for constitutionality. As I mentioned, previously just above, cars and booze have been around a long time, and the constitution even longer. I am not in favor of giving up my constitutional rights for a little bit of security, with "little" in quotes. If we are going to have legal remedies to combat drunk driving, we need to do it right and by the letter of the constitution and our own due process.
 
Maver1ck : I am not in favor of drunks in 7000 lb death wagons driving around running into people. But I am in favor of things making some kind of sense. Sometimes it feels like we are just running around pandering to the whim of the day with no memory of what happened yesterday.
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Ruger5 Top Forum Contributor10.6 yrs
~ 2 years, 10 mos ago   Dec 30, '23 3:31pm  
Shame it only goes through a few days. I personally know someone with FOUR DUI's - only once did 30 days in jail, released, license fully restored, no probation, no nothing. Free to drink and drive again.
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WWdiver 7.2 yrs
~ 2 years, 9 mos ago   Jan 2, '24 1:17pm  
I don't have a problem with this. Of course, I rarely drink, I NEVER go out on New Years anymore, I have zero tolerance or sympathy for drunk drivers.
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