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What is missing in big churches today?

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CaffeineFree 12.8 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 12:24pm  
icare :
What's missing in many of those big 'production' churches is religion. I've seen Joel on TV a few times, and his 'sermon' was more like a TED talk than a sermon.
 
And at Christmas, it's not necessary to have camels, elephants, laser lights, flying angels, a cast of 300 people, etc., to tell the Christmas story. Less is more sometimes.
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1836 9.1 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 12:40pm  
What is missing in big churches today? Pews, bibles, hymnals, organs, piano....worship guide or bulletin. We have chairs, lights, theatrics, placards with QC for iphones to scan to sign up. We have quitars, keyboards, violins, singers, shreakers, rock and roll new songs. Gone are the hymns of yesterday, faith of our fathers and fading memories of evangelists. Remember Francis Hunter, Kathryn Khulmann, Billy Graham and the big crusades? No, young people will not remember. History will wipe that out of the books, Second Baptist will tell you traditional service is at 9 but mostly new modern songs. Gone are the hymns of faith. Of the top 25 Christmas songs, our hymns came in at # 18 silent night etc to #25. Tradition creeps to modern. Salem Lutheran in Tomball did very well having many hymns for Christmas eve eve. Lamb of God Lutheran in Humble had organ music but saw no organ but had holy communion with the candelight service. So when will the church have a real traditional service once a week? Appreciate the great cathedrals with the massive organs shown on this site recently. Awe inspiring. Classical greats will hopefully remain great options for music lovers. Pray we have enough leaders to have hymn sings once a Month that are real hymn sings and that young people learn the hymns of faith, never to be forgotten. Need more traditional services and less woke modern stuff.
 
icare : I invite you to come to service at Holy Comforter Lutheran Church on Woodland Hills. We have traditional Lutheran Devine Liturgy services with Communion at 8:15a.m & 11:00a.m. every Sunday. All are welcome and we mean all so be prepared for that.
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mutton Top Forum Contributor11.9 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 12:46pm  
What I find sad is that there is even this discussion of what it "should be" due to the music/hymns provided.
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FeralHermit
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 1:01pm  
And at Christmas, it's not necessary to have camels, elephants, laser lights, flying angels, a cast of 300 people, etc., to tell the Christmas story. Less is more sometimes. FeralHermit and peppermintstick reacted ReplyAllReplyQuote Tips ( 2 )   2        
 
Especially when parishioners end up having go to the hospital due to the theatrics. Nothing like a camel kick to the head to take the fun out of a Christmas service.
 
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bigla 13.3 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 1:04pm  
Especially when parishioners end up having go to the hospital due to the theatrics. Nothing like a camel kick to the head to take the fun out of a Christmas service. CaffeineFree :
 
FeralHermit : Did that really happen?? I know I shouldn't be laughing, but it sounds too unbelievable!
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FeralHermit
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 1:14pm  
bigla :
Yeah, the video of it was on Grizzy's Facebook page.
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Ruger5 Away / Recently Online Top Forum Contributor10.6 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 1:19pm  
teatime : Nope, not everyone is looking for the fire and brimstone message, and I'm not suggesting that it be all about that, but that is a message the unsaved needs to hear and Christians reminded of. Too much sugar coated preaching is bad for the soul. A weak spiritual diet you might say. Jude 1 -23 says some are saved through fear of judgement (the fear of hell) others through learning of God's love ….many layers that bring people to accept Jesus as savior. What draws each to salvation can be as multifaceted as the number of stars in the Heavens.
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CaffeineFree 12.8 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 3:49pm  
Especially when parishioners end up having go to the hospital due to the theatrics. Nothing like a camel kick to the head to take the fun out of a Christmas service. CaffeineFree :
 
FeralHermit: A good friend of mine was sitting on the aisle opposite the woman who got kicked by the camel. He tried to get up to go help, but the other camel and the other people in the procession were in the way. I wonder how many ZEROS that will cost the church and production company.
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Butterbean 7.4 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 4:20pm  
Me. I am missing in big churches today. And the condition will continue.
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Butterbean 7.4 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 4:43pm  
JamminTX :
Yup.
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bigla 13.3 yrs
~ 8 mos ago   Dec 28, '25 5:32pm  
JamminTX :
I'm not on FB so I hadn't heard of this. When I saw what church it was, I texted my friend who has been practicing for a huge Christmas production all fall. Yes, it was her church and she said the person kicked was fine. She sent me videos of the performance and it was amazing! Her estranged daughter came home to watch and they have reconciled! The joy of Christmas 🩷
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