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Yet another highly effective protest in Kingwood this morning.

Yet another highly effective protest in Kingwood this morning.
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 10:23am  
Sisyphus : You may be better than most, but you still glossed over the flaw in using that same line of reasoning for every topic on this forum. Do we all participate in these discussions because we are trying to disincentivize or suppress free speech? Or is that yet another flawed strategy of yours attempting to redirect the argument to one not being made, in classic strawman fashion - because you know some people fall for it (maybe the same people who are influenced to accept the positions of street corner protesters)?
 
Spork :
You do. Street corner protesters, leaflet posters and even tea dumpers have influenced opinions.
It is what I would call being a good old-fashioned American.
Nope, I did not gloss over anything. I don't want to ridicule or insult.
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jwardl 6 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 11:14am  
Yet another highly effective protest in Kingwood this morning. About 10 geniuses with signs protesting at the corner of West Lake Houston Pkwy. and Kingwood Drive. I appreciated them being there as I needed a good laugh. Some stupidity about Trump, Putin and Abbott. Somebody please get the White House and the Kremlin on the line immediately and tell them they're in trouble, they have 10 middle aged to elderly hippies REALLY riled up in Kingwood. I really couldn't give a damn what these people think, I'm just amazed that they feel this little temper tantrum they're throwing is going to do anything. If they were 3 years old we'd call them spoiled brats. Good grief. What the hell goes through these peoples minds? Are we allowed to protest the endless protests? I for one am sick and tired of every Tom, Dick and Harry protesting every time they don't get their way.
 
Ticagro : Well, they have a *right* to protest, agreed or not - but I, too, find it amusing. It changes my mind not one whit, as my political opinions don't come from nor are shaped by groupthink.
 
Further, the way I see it, things are running much BETTER as compared to the last four years. Is it PERFECT? Heck no, never will be, but it's about a 99% improvement.
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sebastian2 1.2 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 11:32am  
jwardl :
Totally disagree.
Current presidency is horrifying in so many ways.
But this country belongs to all of us.
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 11:36am  
sebastian2 :
People have the right to protest and ignore, they are not mutually exclusive.
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kingwooddiscgolf 15.5 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:12pm  
jwardl : Totally disagree. Current presidency is horrifying in so many ways. But this country belongs to all of us.
 
sebastian2 : He's not so bad.
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onemoretime 1.2 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:15pm  
things are running much BETTER as compared to the last four years
 
jwardl : How so? I'm interested in hearing/learning about how, especially in regard to it not being influenced by groupthink. Original opinions are such a rarity these days.
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TXLobo 6.3 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:16pm  
I've never paid as much for groceries as I paid yesterday. I don't consider that improvement
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Spork 11.5 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:30pm  
People have the right to protest and ignore

Sisyphus
 
Again, literally no one is claiming they don't have that right. It is a non-issue.
 
I'll attempt to summarize my views as a closing remark on the issue and will turn it over to you. I don't want to exceed my self imposed quota of daily posts on this forum if the discussion traffic is now just down to the two of us and if you're just going to continue arguing against a point no one is making. But I'll be glad to respond to anyone else if it appears further discussion is warranted.
 
There are examples where sidewalk protesting can advance a cause but the effectiveness depends on context, execution, and goals.
 
The most effective historical movements that rose in the past featured public protests embracing unifying issues that could easily earn public support when access to more viable forms of communication had not yet been invented. Their success was also due to clear messaging strategies.
 
We don't see that anymore. We see poorly planned, ineffective strategies that lack focus, and fail at successful visibility because they choose locations that fail to connect with broader audiences and are more likely to irritate people driving by (because it is a busy vehicular street corner) rather than locations better suited to build coalitions and influence power structures.
 
Note to future protesters:
 
- Choose areas with heavier foot traffic rather than heavier vehicular traffic. Such a location is inherently more socially engaging when passers by are more likely to have time to converse (as we do on message board forums).
 
- Also focus on issues. It's not inviting to read an array of social security benefit cuts, immigration laws should not be enforced, AND vague emotional expressions of outrage like "No Kings!" If you can focus on issues, be ready with evidence to back up those views.
 
- Stop lying as part of your messaging. If you're going to expect your fears to become ours over cuts to social security benefits, be ready to identify the legislation and the language that cuts those benefits. And if you're going to express that fear every single year about Republicans wanting to cut social security benefits and never have clear evidence to back it up, then be ready to acknowledge that the only party that has succeeded in taking the lead on the only cuts that have happened has been Democrats (as was mentioned earlier in this discussion). When it comes to immigration, stop lying to us about your villains hating immigration and immigrants when your villains are merely in favor of lawful behavior and enforcing the laws on the books. If you're going to pretend to oppose King-like behavior, don't expect us to remember your silence on the authoritarian mandates that occurred under the last administration and properly conclude that you don't really oppose authoritarianism. It's just selective outrage.
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:34pm  
Spork :
No area in Kingwood has heavy foot traffic.
The highest automobile traffic, WLH and Kingwood Drive.
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Sisyphus 8.1 yrs
~ 1 year, 1 mo ago   Aug 18, '25 12:43pm  
teatime :
Thank you for abstaining from ridicule.
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