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by: Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 11 years ago   Jan 29, '13 10:04pm  
A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE
LAW),murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),and
commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).And
there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning
guns would protect us from someone like this.Here is a Newtown victims father expressing his views about more gun laws

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~ 11 years ago   Jan 29, '13 10:28pm  
A person steals guns, (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),shoots and kills his own mother (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),transports these guns loaded (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),brings guns onto school property (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),breaks into the school (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),discharges the weapons within city limits (WHICH IS AGAINST THE
LAW),murders 26 people (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW),and
commits suicide (WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAW).And
there are people in this country that somehow think passing ANOTHER LAW banning
guns would protect us from someone like this.Here is a Newtown victims father expressing his views about more gun laws

 
@Retired_Engineer:
Agreed!
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 9:11am  
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 9:44am  
I agree. Thanks for sharing that RE, I haven't seen it. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 9:44am  
Is suicide against the law? 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 9:53am  
Is suicide against the law?
 
@notfromhere: I know it is in some states...not sure about all.
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 9:59am  
What is the punishment? Maybe is legally needed so that beneficiaries do not receive insurance money. It seems kind of pointless.But sorry, I am highjacking the thread. Back to the main topic. Good points! 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 10:03am  
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 10:32am  
Laws are most effective at keeping honest people honest. Laws will never stop those who posses and exhibit criminal culpability (purposely, knowingly, recklessly, and with negligence commit a crime). All we can do is try and stay one step ahead of them with effective enforcement methods, not words in a book.I won't even pretend to know what it's like to lose a child, and I hope that I never will. Those who have, they all are in my thoughts. 4951
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 2:15pm  
These are two citizens speaking against gun-control at a Hartford, CT council meeting and offer a lot of common sense. They are well worth watching. 

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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 2:26pm  
@Fallon Life insurance won't pay out if the suicide occurs 2 during the first two years of the policy. At the end of the second year the policy would cover death by suicide. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 2:43pm  
@TexINS really?I thought it didn't cover suicides under any circumstances. I wouldn't if I were the insurance company.  4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 3:34pm  
@notfromhere Its just the first two years. I guess the insurance companies believe that if someone wants to off themselves they aren't going to wait 2 years. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 4:17pm  
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 4:21pm  
@notfromhere Its just the first two years. I guess the insurance companies believe that if someone wants to off themselves they aren't going to wait 2 years.
@TexINS: You are correct - they will not cover suicide within the first two years of coverage.  This is to prevent someone considering suicide from taking out a policy on themselves and following through with suicide requiring the benefit payment to whoever they designated as their beneficiary.  As far as suicide being illegal, that would vary by state just like many other state laws do, but it would obviously be difficult to enforce and prosecute. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Jan 30, '13 5:15pm  

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>> @notfromhere Its just the first two years. I guess the insurance companies believe that if someone wants to off themselves they aren't going to wait 2 years.
@TexINS: You are correct - they will not cover suicide within the first two years of coverage.  This is to prevent someone considering suicide from taking out a policy on themselves and following through with suicide requiring the benefit payment to whoever they designated as their beneficiary.  As far as suicide being illegal, that would vary by state just like many other state laws do, but it would obviously be difficult to enforce and prosecute.
 
@manhunter:   Very true.  However, I don't think enforcing and prosecuting an attempted suicide is the ultimate purpose of laws against suicide.  Instead, it provides a legal means to get the person help, even is it is non-voluntary and they must be committed.
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