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by: Burnsway Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 2:23pm  
So what do you guys do with the aggressive dogs that cant be retrained. Not all dogs can be "fixed" so I always wondered what no kill shelters did in such a case. Gotta go get my kid so dont get some fun debate going while I'm gone. I was just wondering...:-)Yea another dog thread...deal with it ADC,,,,,LOL 4951
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taramay Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 2:25pm  
i would think they would either stay there...or go to a sanctuary and live out their lives happily. 4951
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FoFa Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 2:27pm  
I would think, even thou no fault of their own in most cases, some are just not adoptable.Sleep might be the only option, or an Asian restaurant. EmoticonIt might not be the ideal solution, but the only one.Better to give a dog a chance that actually has one, than one that has no chance.Sometimes it is a matter of resources.Wait until Obamacare and they start killing off us old folks due to cost.But i digress. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 2:34pm  
There are dogs that cannot be socialized, are too aggressive and/or require costly surgeries.  The rescues have to make tough decisions every day.  There are not enough resources.  Regarding dogs that cannot be rehabilitated due to agression, I would rather put a dog down that to have it live it's life secluded in a pen or tied up the rest of it's life.  Unfortunately, not all rescues think this way and dig their heels in and refuse to do the humane thing. 4951
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xjamiex Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 2:46pm  
I don't believe in no kill shelters. Not every dog is a good dog and not every dog should be saved. There are dogs who suffer too much(mentally or physically) and can only find peace in death. I try to keep a level head and be realistic. There are too many nutzos in rescue though who only see one way. 4951
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WJo Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:02pm  
@FoFa...years ago there was a movie "Solient Green" (SP?) any way it was about earth & what happened to the old & frail people once they had outlived their usefulness. They had a "factory " where these people could go & have their last wish granted while they peacefully died in a comfortable reclining chair . Then after they were dead their bodies were taken & turned into "little green tablets" that  were given to the young & useful" people that still had a purpose on earth. Since food was scarce people looked forward to the little green tablets to be passed out ( they did not know where the tablets came from or how they were made) .
 
I saw this movie when I was a teenager & it stuck in my mind ....maybe Obama care will come up with a similar solution for us old useless farts in the future (LOL). 4951
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FoFa Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:06pm  
@WjoI have watched it a few times with Charleston Heston right.Solient Green is made of people!It would be the "green" thing to do.Obama is all about being "green". 4951
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WJo Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:12pm  
@FoFa you are so right ! A really weird movie for that time , but today ....not so weird ...after all it would be "green" (LMAO) 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:22pm  
There are sanctuaries that take feral and or aggressive dogs. There is one in Texas.
 
I have a male chow mix that has a nasty disposition towards most people, but he is wonderful with me. I don't take him out in public places because he is a risk. He is fine around most women but he does not like men.
 
If I had a dog that was aggressive towards me and was biting me, than it would go to a sanctuary to live. It's a personal choice I would make. Sanctuaries are equipped to handle dogs with aggression or behavioral issues.
 
As far as medical costs go, shelters have to raise funds continuously to cover vetting. If a dog has a condition and it is going to costs thousands and treatment won't cure the dog, than you have to make a painful decision.
 
We just found out my brother's wonderful dog Patch has Lymphoma. It cost over $1300 for diagnostics and he just started his chemo on mon. Treatment is very expensive and will hopefully put him in remission for a year or two. Only 10 percent of dogs stay in complete remission. Like I said, it's a personal choice to save your dog and spend this kind of money. 4951
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mariasmith Active Indicator LED Icon 3
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:33pm  
I had an agressive dog put to sleep. Very hard,but he had other health issues as well. 4951
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Burnsway Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:34pm  
most of you share my opinion on this but no one has really answered what the no kill shelters do with them. Sanctuaries were brought up but I'm not sure if that is what area no kill rescues do with them. I also believe if you get a dog and find out its aggressive you either manage the dog on your own or have them put to sleep. Mine is the sweetest thing with us but beware strangers, but is managed very well within our immediate family. You dont re home them and if one does then they should be held responsible if something happens. 4951
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mariasmith Active Indicator LED Icon 3
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:44pm  
I know of one no-kill shelter in Kingwood that has an agressive dog in a solitary pen. Only one human can contact the dog. That is a sad life if you ask me...but,hey,I am not in charge over there... 4951
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xjamiex Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:44pm  
Wallace, please don't tell me that's the same Patch that I met at barktoberfest....Emoticon 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:49pm  
It would seem if a dog could not be socialized, you have limited choices, one is isolation.Now who benefits from that? 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 3:49pm  
Maria,
 
My EX's GSD was ruined from the start, he came from a BYB and was just out of control, sent to training and it made him worse and more aggressive to people. His dog was a 3 time biter and actually chased a little girl down and bit her. When we lived together the dig was bi-polar. He would randomly charge at me from his crate wanting to attack. But other times he would be my best friend. One day he attacked me. I told my ex that his dog was way too much if a liability and told him he needed to be euthanized. He couldn't do it and instead we sent him to smiling dog farms(they take any dog if you can pay, no matter what the issue is). So now for 80 bucks a month this 4 year old GSD lives out his life in a pen outside. We got reports of him being very aggressive towards the staff. Duh. What a life for a GSD. He really should be released from his demons by a humane death. 4951
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~ 11 years ago   Apr 26, '12 4:23pm  
Yes Jamie, it's my brother's dog Patch, the one you met @ Pet Fest & Barktoberfest. My brother was so upset. Dr Knapp @ Veterans suspected he had cancer from the x-rays she took last week. He was having some labored breathing, she made a referral to NHVS and he had to have an ultrasound, bloodworm and they sent off a sample of fluid that was drained from his chest cavity.
 
He has Stage III Lymphoma (b cell). His treatment is 25 weeks using a combination of 4 or 5 chemo therapy drugs. He is already doing better, his lymph nodes are considerably smaller and his breathing has improved. He is on Predisone which is helping to reduce the inflammation in his tissues which will aid his body to eliminate the excess fluid. He is eating again and playing, will keep you posted.
 
Please say a Patch prayer! 4951
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