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by: princecharming Active Indicator LED Icon 5 OP 
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 8:32am  
anybody here experiece this? 4951
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AuthorMan Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 8:38am  
I'm more of a 'that' kind of guy. 4951
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SmurfySuzi Active Indicator LED Icon 7
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:03am  
I'm of the belief that pretty much anyone, if they think hard enough, can come up with at least one experience where they feel they were sexually harassed.  Putting a stop to it when it happens and not years later is what makes the difference.I used to have a creepy old man at work that would stare down my shirt, I was a college student at the time and he was at least mid 60's.  I asked my Human Resources Professor what to do about it as they guy worked int he same building, but for a different company.  While I was talking to the Professor he asked me to describe what the guy was doing to me.  I told him "He stares at my chest, like you are doing now."  The Professor apologized and offered some tips on how to stop the guy at work from doing the same without getting anyone in trouble, since I didn't want to get anyone in trouble.  The next day at work, I simply told the guy that he was making me uncomfortable and to please stop.  It worked - the direct approach doesn't always work, but it did this time. 4951
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deltadawn Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:15am  
Many were advised to ignore it, or were told they were over reacting, or that they should take it as a compliment, or that they should just learn to live with it. Seems the time has come that women will no longer allow their concerns about this behavior to be dismissed. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:16am  
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:28am  
In my opinion, the "me too" is reserved for those who have actually been assaulted, attacked or seriously harassed to the point where they felt threatened to manipulated in a bad, negative, or hurtful way.  Unfortunately, it's the latest trendy bandwagon for some women.  I saw some on the news encouraging women to add that to their twitter and Facebook if they have ever been hit on, or something minor like that. I mean, really, who hasn't been hit on, or propositioned.  I am glad to see that aggressive sexual behavior (such as the casting couch) is being shunned and villainized instead of being accepted and swept under the rug. 4951
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Janey Active Indicator LED Icon
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:34am  
I could use a new couch. Are they selling any of those??? 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:51am  
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ForeCPA90 Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 9:57am  
In my opinion, the "me too" is reserved for those who have actually been assaulted, attacked or seriously harassed to the point where they felt threatened to manipulated in a bad, negative, or hurtful way.  Unfortunately, it's the latest trendy bandwagon for some women.  I saw some on the news encouraging women to add that to their twitter and Facebook if they have ever been hit on, or something minor like that. I mean, really, who hasn't been hit on, or propositioned.  I am glad to see that aggressive sexual behavior (such as the casting couch) is being shunned and villainized instead of being accepted and swept under the rug.

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My buddy's wife posted it on FB, I asked him what happened to her, he rolled his eyes and said she got upset once when someone told a dirty joke in a meeting.  It's like the silly over the top definitions of assault colleges are coming up with, it's going to damage the credibility of real assault and harassment victims.  I don't want people rolling their eyes if my daughter is harassed because they think she took offense to a joke.   4951
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 10:03am  
 
 
My buddy's wife posted it on FB, I asked him what happened to her, he rolled his eyes and said she got upset once when someone told a dirty joke in a meeting.  It's like the silly over the top definitions of assault colleges are coming up with, it's going to damage the credibility of real assault and harassment victims.  I don't want people rolling their eyes if my daughter is harassed because they think she took offense to a joke.  

@ForeCPA90:  Very true.  That's why I hate those bandwagon trends.  YES, encourage women who have been harmed to come forward and speak up, and give them the support and understanding they deserve.  YES, encourage and empower women to stand strong against a truly unwanted event that makes them feel belittled, threatened, damaged, unsafe or physically harmed.  But please, everyone, get some perspective, don't cheapen the movement, and don't include every little "honey, sweetie, baby" reference, or eye-rolling adult joke.  Leave this trend alone and reserve it for those that were truly harmed.  
 
 
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~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 10:04am  

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>> In my opinion, the "me too" is reserved for those who have actually been assaulted, attacked or seriously harassed to the point where they felt threatened to manipulated in a bad, negative, or hurtful way.  Unfortunately, it's the latest trendy bandwagon for some women.  I saw some on the news encouraging women to add that to their twitter and Facebook if they have ever been hit on, or something minor like that. I mean, really, who hasn't been hit on, or propositioned.  I am glad to see that aggressive sexual behavior (such as the casting couch) is being shunned and villainized instead of being accepted and swept under the rug.
 
@donnatella:
 
 
My buddy's wife posted it on FB, I asked him what happened to her, he rolled his eyes and said she got upset once when someone told a dirty joke in a meeting.  It's like the silly over the top definitions of assault colleges are coming up with, it's going to damage the credibility of real assault and harassment victims.  I don't want people rolling their eyes if my daughter is harassed because they think she took offense to a joke.  
 
@ForeCPA90:
Yup; when everyone is a victim, no one is a victim.
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TexasOma Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 10:29am  
Seems the time has come that women will no longer allow their concerns about this behavior to be dismissed.
 
@deltadawn:
 
But 20, 30 , 40 or more years later? Or son's birth mother was on Facebook last night detailing everything that happened since middle school and saying how she is crying and loving this #metoo movement.
 
I'm sure it's cathartic, but she's in her mid 50s and she's been in years of counseling, isn't there a time to move on. I'll never say 'get over it' because rape is nothing to 'get over', but pull yourself up and move on to the future!
 
IMO, confessing this past on a public forum had become a competition! I don't want my business shared with the world so I won't share what I don't want regurgitated 10 years from now!
 
I doubt there is a woman alive who has not had a situation arise where a man in a position of power has not made a pass or made uncomfortable comments to her. I know I was and I took control at that time! I was never taught how to, but I have always been a feisty *****.
 
And I agree with @SmurfySuzi...put a stop to it when it happens and not years later. We need to teach our young girls and boys what to do should a harassment start our what to do in an assault situation. 4951
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deltadawn Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 10:44am  
I don't know why some feel the need to share every detail on line. I won't be doing that, but for those that couldn't address it at the time, or for those that could and did, they are still  allowed to say "me too" and be believed and supported. I agree with you that we need to teach our youngsters, to not engage in these types of behavior, and what to do if they are harassed or assaulted, or if they witness it happening. 4951
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TexasOma Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 11:01am  
if they have ever been hit on, or something minor like that. I mean, really, who hasn't been hit on, or propositioned.

@donnatella:
 
 
If I had not been hit on in my earlier years, I would not be married almost 50 years to the lecherous old man I'm married to now. God forbid - he kissed me on the first day he met me, as my friend Linda and I were leaving the party (the kind where we played spin the bottle & Limbo dance). He kissed me as I was getting in the car and asked if he could call me...so I gave him my neighbor's number, since we didn't have a phone. Now that lecherous old man sleeps with me every night!  Thank God he made a pass at me. But, I do agree with you, some of this is going overboard with sensitivity.  Some things you do brush off - the wolf whistle, the cat calls, the heyyyy babe - those are irritating, but it shows the character of the moron making them. Those men would never get my attention because they were morons, so just ignore the morons.  But the touchers, the gropers, the stare at the boob guys....those need to be verbally addressed, but I don't think it's something to run to HR unless it continues.  Then we have those men (and some women) who feel they need to pressure the co-worker/job applicant/model/starlett....anyone who has to look up to the creep. Those individuals need to have they **** exposed to HR and to anyone else. They need to be told right on the spot HELL NO!!!  And then walk away.  I have this in my experience and I did not hesitate to tell the AH where to shove his suggestion. I don't know how many other employees fell for his line of BS, but I was going to. I tried to quit that moment, he would not take my resignation, so I typed up a resignation letter to HR with details, and I left a copy on his desk & walked off the job. This was in the late 70s....so sexual harassment is not a new thing. Again, I'm a feisty *****. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 11:05am  
the stare at the boob guys....
 
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We can't? 4951
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TexasOma Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 6 years ago   Oct 18, '17 11:05am  
they are still allowed to say "me too" and be believed and supported.

@deltadawn:
 
 
I agree!!!  Just a simple #metoo should do.  If someone is curious they could ask for details in PM & you could share if you chose. That could be just as cathartic. What my friend (sons birthmother) is doing is over-sharing...IMO. But, she's a drama queen to start with. 4951
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