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History going out the window.

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by: VIP Active Indicator LED Icon 1 OP 
~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 5:33pm  
The statue of Jefferson Davis, the president of the Confederate States of America during the Civil War. It was the second of four such statues or monuments targeted for removal by city officials in New Orleans. If the PC police keep trying to erase history our children and grand children will not know what happened during the American Civil War. We need these things so history does not repeat itself. Or is that what they want? 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 5:38pm  
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. 4951
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 6:12pm  
It's our history, like it or not. Destroying statues will not change anything. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 6:27pm  
Unfortunately the people being celebrated today are people like Bruce Jenner and Collin Kaepernick. 4951
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VIP Active Indicator LED Icon 1 OP 
~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 6:30pm  
Unfortunately the people being celebrated today are people like Bruce Jenner and Collin Kaepernick.

@CC1974: Very sad isn't it.
 
 
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 6:57pm  
It would probably bother me more if I believed that most people actually cared about history. The statues helped provide a historical aura to a city with a checkered past and an equally checkered present. Removing the symbols still won't remove the history. There is little doubt in my mind that the mayor is only doing this to boost his political ambitions within the democratic party.What bothers me most about it is that it will only fuel the segment of the population that are perpetually outraged. This is obviously not a one and done endeavor. Next will be street names and probably even the historic Jackson Square. There is even a group that made a run at the Saints logo with accusations of racist origins.In a city and State with major financial problems, you would think politicians would find more productive uses of taxpayer money than to remove statues and expend funds on the legal battles necessary to do so. But then again, the legal battles only serve to line the pockets of the next round of elected officials. 4951
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sweetie Active Indicator LED Icon 11 Forum Moderator
~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 6:59pm  
It's sad for New Orleans. It's a city so rich in its history. A lot of people there are mad at Mayor Landrieu. He's going to run for Senate next and he thinks this will get him votes. Politicians sell their souls and their cities to stay in politics. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:09pm  
Unfortunately the people being celebrated today are people like Bruce Jenner and Collin Kaepernick. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:17pm  
Always thought he was related to A.Lincoln when comparing the photos... 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:20pm  
If we are going to remove all symbols of people involved in a war that was lost, then I guess they should tear down the wall commemorating our dead from the Vietnam War.  Not my thinking, but that's apparently the thinking of the idiots in New Orleans, in particular Mayor Mitch Landrieu.  The Landrieu family has had a stronghold on political offices in New Orleans and even Mitch's sister, Mary Landrieu, is a Senator for LA. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:21pm  
Since Jefferson owned slaves does that mean they will tear down the Jefferson Memorial in DC.  Also, Washington owned slaves; will they tear down all the statues of him.  So sad to hide such a huge part of the history of this country.  Mayor Landrieu is acting like Isis. 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:23pm  
"African slavery, as it exists in the United States, is a moral, a social, and a political blessing." Jefferson Davis
 
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:27pm  
He sounds like an ****** to me..... I'm NOT bothered by his staue removal 4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:40pm  
@Retired_EngineerThere are nuances to this issue.  Take Jefferson, yes, a slave owner.  Is that why he is celebrated?  No.  Jeff Davis, besides presiding over a confederacy of "states" driven to preserve slavery, what other contribution should he be exalted for?   Put his, and some others, in a shame memorial, not a celebration of the cause that was slavery.  History should be remembered as is,  not modified to lessen the assault our psyches.  4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:45pm  
Never forget where you came from. It might not be the most glorious history but it's the history of these cities and holding these historical figures accountable for a way a life that was accepted is more insane than taking down the monuments. It is estimated that over 5,000 black slaves were owned by blacks. A part that is seldom discussed but blacks owned blacks!!!! They beat and whipped their slaves just the same as white slave owners. There is a grand grave in a city in La of a former black slave owner. I have seen it. Hey, let's rip his grave to shreds as well. If we are going this route then let's go all out.    4951
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~ 6 years ago   May 11, '17 7:50pm  
"African slavery, as it exists in the United States, is a moral, a social, and a political blessing." Jefferson Davis

@KooKooCaChoo and @mulmye:  I'm not a fan of Jefferson Davis, but I do respect other Confederate Generals and Leaders.  The Confederacy knew that slavery was coming to an end.  The Confederate Constitution even banned the further importation of slaves.Contrary to the popular thought, the Civil War was NOT about slavery. If you think it was, then please explain the five border states that were slave states but chose to fight with the north.  Slavery became an issue during the war when President Lincoln needed a respectable morale boost to the north so they would still support the war. The north had gotten tired of the war and balked at continuing to pay for it. Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation is hailed as the document that freed the slaves.  In reality, it was legally worthless but it did boost morale in the north and Lincoln hoped that slaves in the south would rebel, requiring Confederate soldiers to be pulled from the line to control a rebellion(s). This tactic only worked on a very small basis.   The Emancipation Proclamation was like the USA writing a law to restrict something in Canada.  In the Emancipation Proclamation, Lincoln only banned slavery in the Confederate states, NOT in the five border states.  That's the main reason that, as the war was coming to an end, Lincoln put so much effort into getting the 13th Amendment pushed through Congress.  The movie "Lincoln" focuses on this effort and is a great movie.
 
 
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