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by: SwaggyG Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:22pm  
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:26pm  
Don't ever voluntarily blow in the machine or let them search. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:28pm  
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mulmye Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:28pm  
Traveling home from the Grand Canyon I was stopped by a New Mexico State highway patrol. He told me I was following the 18 wheeler to closely. I responded that I did not think I was and asked how many feet I should have been. He immediately then asked me if I was on drugs? I chuckled and said no I'm not. He then asked if I was transporting drugs, cash, or weapons. I told him absolutely not. He then asked if he could search my car. I had nothing to hide so I made the biggest mistake of my life and said yes. He then had me sign a sheet of paper which was basically a search warrant and within 3 minutes there was another police officer with a K9 dog. He told me to stand about 40 ft away from my rental car and then they removed all of my contents out of the car and then that dog went to town. He jumped inside the car. Also jumped in the engine compartment and on the roof. Stupid dog did about everything to that car except for taking a dump on my drivers seat. I then realized that I have 2 cops and a dog doing everything possible that they can to destroy my life and my wife and childrens too. I started thinking what if the last guy who rented the car left some drugs in the car that I did not know about. So the dog found nothing and then I figured they would be finished. Nope it was time to take door panels off and keep on digging for I guess guns or cash or anything the dog was not trained to sniff. I was like dudes I have an inflatable boat, 15hp engine, 6 gallon gas can and a life jacket. I really did boat the Grand Canyon I'm not a freakin criminal. After an hour these guys gave up. I yelled at them do not put anything back in the car because I don't want you damaging my rental car anymore. I loaded the car my self and just let them reinstall the door panels. I was more **** off at myself than them because I should have never gave them permission. I just figured it would be a quick looksy not a complete dismantlement. I then asked the cop what the heck did you profile me so hard for. He told me my eyes were twitching and I looked nervous. I told him your right about both but I had lasik eye surgery and driving at this higher altitude is giving me a glaucoma episode and I can't stop blinking. I then asked the guy since you wasted my whole morning where the heck can I get a decent burger in Albuquerque because I was starving. He gave me directions to a burger joint and it was actuall pretty good. Long story short I will never let a cop search my vehicle and will probably even envoke my 5th amendment rights to every question they ask. It just does not pay to talk to cops. We are all criminals in there eyes.
@SwaggyG: And if you had been asked for proof of citizenship or of lawful right to be in the US, could you have provided it at that moment?
 
 
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SwaggyG Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:29pm  
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:30pm  
No...I hate driving in NM and only go the stretch from Texline to Raton. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:34pm  
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:36pm  
You never know in that type of situation, if you end up drawing a bad card and get that one rare crooked cop. No cops aren't bad, but I'm not naive to think they all are 100% honest and ethical 24/7/365. Just look at the mugshots of the handful here in a Houston that make the news from time to time, when they are arrested and charged.
 
The way those were behaving, I would not have given them anything but my license and rental car paperwork. They seemed hell-bent on proving and finding something, so the potential, at least, was there.
 
Again, this is not anti-cop. Just a realistic admission that people are human, and a badge is no guarantee, and you need to protect your rights. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:39pm  
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:40pm  
Believe that was going through my head too. I started thinking what if they just plant something in my car to make themselves look good. It was really scary.
 
@SwaggyG: Very true. I hope and pray that action is rare, but we both are realistic. 4951
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mulmye Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:42pm  
Just a drivers license.

@SwaggyG: Not good enough.  If and when local law enforcement are deputized to enforce citizenship laws and regulations it would be detained until you provide evidence of a right to be in the country. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 5, '17 11:47pm  
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 6, '17 12:03am  

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@SwaggyG: Not good enough.  If and when local law enforcement are deputized to enforce citizenship laws and regulations it would be detained until you provide evidence of a right to be in the country.
@mulmye: I'm sure you are correct but I just don think it worth carrying a social security card and birth certificate around all the time. I have a near perfect credit score and the risk of losing all 3 of my documents would be an identity theft starter kit for who ever would find my wallet if I ever lost it. I keep those items locked up in a safe.
@SwaggyG: Never carry your SS card.  Many states have changed birth certificate formats so unless yours is recent, make sure it is still accepted.  I really believe most of us do not fully understand the repercussions of having to prove the right to be here upon demand of proof,  It is speculated that the Irish president, Mr. Hggins, intends to raise that issue on behalf of the Irish-American community when he meets with Mr. Trump.  My advice is to be a tourist in our country, carry your passport.  My birth certificate takes a very long time to get a certified copy of and my passport expired.  Wherever Sheriff Joe is at I am not going. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Feb 6, '17 12:55am  
Keep in mind if you say no to a cop searching your car...........they are still probably going to search your car it is just going to take a lot longer as they parade a K9 unit out to give a signal so they have evidence for a search warrant. Doesn't matter that the dog didn't give off any signal, you had the nerve to say no so they are going to spend hours going over your car.I honestly believe if a handler has over 30% false positive rates he should be fired but instead they can have teams with a 75% false positive rate being the sole qualifier for a search warrant.  4951
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beadweaver Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 7 years ago   Feb 6, '17 1:33am  
Traveling home from the Grand Canyon I was stopped by a New Mexico State highway patrol. He told me I was following the 18 wheeler to closely. I responded that I did not think I was and asked how many feet I should have been. He immediately then asked me if I was on drugs? I chuckled and said no I'm not. He then asked if I was transporting drugs, cash, or weapons. I told him absolutely not. He then asked if he could search my car. I had nothing to hide so I made the biggest mistake of my life and said yes. He then had me sign a sheet of paper which was basically a search warrant and within 3 minutes there was another police officer with a K9 dog. He told me to stand about 40 ft away from my rental car and then they removed all of my contents out of the car and then that dog went to town. He jumped inside the car. Also jumped in the engine compartment and on the roof. Stupid dog did about everything to that car except for taking a dump on my drivers seat. I then realized that I have 2 cops and a dog doing everything possible that they can to destroy my life and my wife and childrens too. I started thinking what if the last guy who rented the car left some drugs in the car that I did not know about. So the dog found nothing and then I figured they would be finished. Nope it was time to take door panels off and keep on digging for I guess guns or cash or anything the dog was not trained to sniff. I was like dudes I have an inflatable boat, 15hp engine, 6 gallon gas can and a life jacket. I really did boat the Grand Canyon I'm not a freakin criminal. After an hour these guys gave up. I yelled at them do not put anything back in the car because I don't want you damaging my rental car anymore. I loaded the car my self and just let them reinstall the door panels. I was more **** off at myself than them because I should have never gave them permission. I just figured it would be a quick looksy not a complete dismantlement. I then asked the cop what the heck did you profile me so hard for. He told me my eyes were twitching and I looked nervous. I told him your right about both but I had lasik eye surgery and driving at this higher altitude is giving me a glaucoma episode and I can't stop blinking. I then asked the guy since you wasted my whole morning where the heck can I get a decent burger in Albuquerque because I was starving. He gave me directions to a burger joint and it was actuall pretty good. Long story short I will never let a cop search my vehicle and will probably even envoke my 5th amendment rights to every question they ask. It just does not pay to talk to cops. We are all criminals in there eyes.
 
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Are you crazy? Never say yes. The po po are not your friend.
We got stopped one night in a friends mom'scar. She has MS and we all drove it and her wherever she needed.
We had been smoked out and got stopped. They said the smelled pot.
Pulled us all out one at a time. Insisting it had to be ours.
My turn...... i dump my purse on the trunk and out comes my big fat wallet with hair ties holdinging it closed cause it was bulging. He asked where if I got my money from pot sales. I laughed and told him, look none of us need to sell dope, we're strippers and that two grand was last nightand tonights tips. It's the old lady's car and no we don't know who was on watch last night, tonight it's ours. She only asks don't wreck it, drive drunk, and bring it back gassed.
He assured us all he knew we were stonedbut wasn't gonna waste any more time.
We headed down the road and we all told our stories and then my friend asked what took so long with me? I told him I recounted my money after they had my wallet. Don't trust even if you think your watching.
Then Beth pulled out her bag from inside the seat and rolled a fatty to chill us out. Lol
Never say your guilty. Let em prove it.
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turkeytrax Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 7 years ago   Feb 6, '17 2:46am  
Traveling home from the Grand Canyon I was stopped by a New Mexico State highway patrol. He told me I was following the 18 wheeler to closely. I responded that I did not think I was and asked how many feet I should have been. He immediately then asked me if I was on drugs? I chuckled and said no I'm not. He then asked if I was transporting drugs, cash, or weapons. I told him absolutely not. He then asked if he could search my car. I had nothing to hide so I made the biggest mistake of my life and said yes.

@SwaggyG: Before reading this, it would not have occurred to me to say no to the cops if they wanted to search my car, but I sure will know better from here on out. Thanks for the info.
 
 
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