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Lakewood church I just saw this story on the news. Thoughts? ...... Lakewood Church responds to TikTok plea for baby formula: 'No problem with the fake baby lady' A TikTok user with hundreds of thousands of followers recently called Lakewood Church and asked if it could help a 2-month-old in need of baby formula as a child cried in the background. The cries were from a recording, and the baby wasn't real. But the video was part of a viral series in which the TikTok user, who goes by the name Nikalie Monroe, calls places of worship across the U.S. to test whether they would be willing to help a parent in crisis. In the video, the phone operator for Lakewood said the church offers a benevolence ministry and could take a request for Monroe, and that it could take a couple of days or weeks to provide aid, if approved. Monroe ended the call soon after that, unimpressed by Lakewood's response. "I don't know anymore about these churches," Monroe said in the video after the call ended. "I already knew, don't get me wrong, but it's like, when it's in your face and you're seeing it and hearing it, it's like, this is reality right now." A spokesperson for Lakewood said it supports 21 crisis pregnancy centers across Greater Houston and 16 food pantries that carry infant formula, while the church does not. The spokesperson said that the phone operator "made an error" by not sharing that information with Monroe. "We have no problem with the fake baby lady conducting her telephone experiment," said Lakewood spokesperson Donald Iloff. "She has every right to do so." Monroe did not respond to requests for comment by Tuesday evening. Testing churches on TikTok
Many responses to Monroe's video about Lakewood expressed disappointment with the church, with some users mentioning its Hurricane Harvey response. In 2017, Lakewood had posted online that its facility was inaccessible due to severe flooding, sparking a public backlash. The church announced it was formally opening to those in need two days later. Monroe has called dozens of churches, a mosque and a pregnancy center in what she is calling a "social experiment." In a TikTok video explaining her efforts, she said she wanted to understand if churches were using donations to help their communities and people in need. She didn't think many churches would rise to the occasion. "That is my personal view," Monroe said. "I want to be proven wrong." A 'social experiment' goes viral
Monroe called another megachurch in Texas, Abundant Church West in El Paso, and revealed she was doing an "experiment" after being told the church did not have food for babies in its pantry. The person answering for the church hung up - Monroe said that had never happened before. The Islamic Center of Charlotte in North Carolina told Monroe it could help her when she called, prompting her to disclose her efforts. Viewers said it showed a different side of Islam than many people are familiar with. "What began as a simple moment of service, offered without knowing it was part of a broader challenge, became something far more meaningful," the Islamic Center of Charlotte wrote in a statement on its website about the experience. "To know that our actions helped shift a perspective and allowed you to witness the heart of Islam is a powerful affirmation of the values we strive to live by." Monroe's TikTok profile says she lives in Kentucky, and many of her calls have been to churches in the state. Her online effort has been gaining traction as some responses from Christian churches disappointed Monroe and her viewers. "These are the same people that push people to have babies," Monroe said. "They won't even help you feed your baby, keep this in mind." TikTok user: nikalie.monroe www.houstonchronicle .com/news/houston-te xas/religion/article /tiktok-lakewoo
GiggleMugs reacted Many responses to Monroe's video about Lakewood expressed disappointment with the church, with some users mentioning its Hurricane Harvey response. In 2017, Lakewood had posted online that its facility was inaccessible due to severe flooding, sparking a public backlash. The church announced it was formally opening to those in need two days later.
Monroe called another megachurch in Texas, Abundant Church West in El Paso, and revealed she was doing an "experiment" after being told the church did not have food for babies in its pantry. The person answering for the church hung up - Monroe said that had never happened before.
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So she lives in Kentucky and has no baby but she's doing this "experiment" to see who will send baby formula. Scam caller. She says this is reality but it's not.
If she was really a mom with a hungry baby, she would call on her family, neighbors, local food pantries and churches etc. Also, she would have WIC.
I hate this 'gotcha' social media BS. The social media scammer didn't prove anything other than that she cares more about creating drama than helping someone. If she had she would have taken the time to talk to Lakewood and learned about the other options they do support - information that might have been meaningful to some people who were actually in need. Context is everything and these kind of parasites on the *** of society specialize in creating drama by omitting crucial context. They are a cancer.
workman100, Perelandran and gabbygirl + 11 more reacted The social media scammer didn't prove anything other than that she cares more about creating drama than helping someone. If she had she would have taken the time to talk to Lakewood and learned about the other options they do support - information that might have been meaningful to some people who were actually in need.
I hate this 'gotcha' social media BS. The social media scammer didn't prove anything other than that she cares more about creating drama than helping someone. If she had she would have taken the time to talk to Lakewood and learned about the other options they do support - information that might have been meaningful to some people who were actually in need. Context is everything and these kind of parasites on the *** of society specialize in creating drama by omitting crucial context. They are a cancer.
Apparently she called over 40 churches in her series. 9 said yes, 33 said no. Joel Osteen has always been like that, but it's sad that so many real churches say no.
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I don't have a problem with it. Think about if you're a young or struggling Mother with young children. You have no transportation and no family nearby. Your last hope might be reaching out to the local church. Churches are there to help and support people, not just take collections and hold Sunday service. They should have people at the ready with resources and/or information for stuff like this. Fire/Police departments, schools, and the Military go through readiness drills and exercises all of the time to prepare for various situations. Let churches be tested on their human crisis readiness, because they might be the only thing standing between a desperate Mother and starving Child.
McCauley1981, StGetoffmylawn1 and StormChaser + 1 more reacted Lakewood church I just saw this story on the news. Thoughts? ...... Lakewood Church responds to TikTok plea for baby formula: 'No problem with the fake baby lady' A TikTok user with hundreds of thousands of followers recently called Lakewood Church and asked if it could help a 2-month-old in need of baby formula as a child cried in the background. The cries were from a recording, and the baby wasn't real. But the video was part of a viral series in which the TikTok user, who goes by the name Nikalie Monroe, calls places of worship across the U.S. to test whether they would be willing to help a parent in crisis. In the video, the phone operator for Lakewood said the church offers a benevolence ministry and could take a request for Monroe, and that it could take a couple of days or weeks to provide aid, if approved. Monroe ended the call soon after that, unimpressed by Lakewood's response. "I don't know anymore about these churches," Monroe said in the video after the call ended. "I already knew, don't get me wrong, but it's like, when it's in your face and you're seeing it and hearing it, it's like, this is reality right now." A spokesperson for Lakewood said it supports 21 crisis pregnancy centers across Greater Houston and 16 food pantries that carry infant formula, while the church does not. The spokesperson said that the phone operator "made an error" by not sharing that information with Monroe. "We have no problem with the fake baby lady conducting her telephone experiment," said Lakewood spokesperson Donald Iloff. "She has every right to do so." Monroe did not respond to requests for comment by Tuesday evening. Testing churches on TikTok Many responses to Monroe's video about Lakewood expressed disappointment with the church, with some users mentioning its Hurricane Harvey response. In 2017, Lakewood had posted online that its facility was inaccessible due to severe flooding, sparking a public backlash. The church announced it was formally opening to those in need two days later. Monroe has called dozens of churches, a mosque and a pregnancy center in what she is calling a "social experiment." In a TikTok video explaining her efforts, she said she wanted to understand if churches were using donations to help their communities and people in need. She didn't think many churches would rise to the occasion. "That is my personal view," Monroe said. "I want to be proven wrong." A 'social experiment' goes viral Monroe called another megachurch in Texas, Abundant Church West in El Paso, and revealed she was doing an "experiment" after being told the church did not have food for babies in its pantry. The person answering for the church hung up - Monroe said that had never happened before. The Islamic Center of Charlotte in North Carolina told Monroe it could help her when she called, prompting her to disclose her efforts. Viewers said it showed a different side of Islam than many people are familiar with. "What began as a simple moment of service, offered without knowing it was part of a broader challenge, became something far more meaningful," the Islamic Center of Charlotte wrote in a statement on its website about the experience. "To know that our actions helped shift a perspective and allowed you to witness the heart of Islam is a powerful affirmation of the values we strive to live by." Monroe's TikTok profile says she lives in Kentucky, and many of her calls have been to churches in the state. Her online effort has been gaining traction as some responses from Christian churches disappointed Monroe and her viewers. "These are the same people that push people to have babies," Monroe said. "They won't even help you feed your baby, keep this in mind." TikTok user: nikalie.monroe www.houstonchronicle .com/news/houston-te xas/religion/article /tiktok-lakewoo
Like far too many of these so called "influencers", she's ethically vacant and will do anything to satisfy her insatiable need for attention and to try to monetize anything and anyone else for her own benefit. There's no doubt in my mind that she'll now cloak herself in self righteousness, claiming that she was only trying to help the needy. In reality, the only person she's trying to benefit is herself by lining her pockets by making others look bad and herself look good. Same old garbage. These "influencers" typically have no shame.
Perelandran, gabbygirl and StormChaser + 3 more reacted Apparently she called over 40 churches in her series. 9 said yes, 33 said no. Joel Osteen has always been like that, but it's sad that so many real churches say no.
PatrickStar : I know a couple local churches don't help directly, but typically the phone operator will suggest other non-profits (ie HAAM) they do support who help moms/babies.
It was an impressive operation. More clothing than some Goodwills.
I hate this 'gotcha' social media BS. The social media scammer didn't prove anything other than that she cares more about creating drama than helping someone. If she had she would have taken the time to talk to Lakewood and learned about the other options they do support - information that might have been meaningful to some people who were actually in need. Context is everything and these kind of parasites on the *** of society specialize in creating drama by omitting crucial context. They are a cancer.
It is because of scams and abusers that a lot of churches do not do charity at the church itself. Ours collects for several organizations and takes to those so they can vet and distribute. We do not have the staff to do it at our church.
The "big box" churches get a bad wrap IMO. Yes, they could probably do more, but until u see their P&L (whatever a nonprofit calls it) we shouldn't throw stones.
Same w people. I know for a fact we have very generous people here on KDC that most would never know how much they donate and do w their $$. Its really none of our business.
gabbygirl, StormChaser and peppermintstick + 5 more reacted The "big box" churches get a bad wrap IMO. Yes, they could probably do more, but until u see their P&L (whatever a nonprofit calls it) we shouldn't throw stones.
Same w people. I know for a fact we have very generous people here on KDC that most would never know how much they donate and do w their $$. Its really none of our business.
Many politicians want to eliminate "social services" because they say the "community", especially religious branches like Churches and such can provide those "needs"......That little "experiment" should be an "eye-opener" for them....Gray boxed for being political and/or controversial in a General Chat discussion.
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