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Concerns about a person intoxicated on the sidewalk near schools and possible actions that can be taken.
Concerns about a person intoxicated on the sidewalk near schools and possible actions that can be taken.
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mm4731 : They are not willing to help themselves. That's the difference.
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TEXASGIRLMAMMA : Parasites, most of them.
mm4731 : They are not willing to help themselves. That's the difference.
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TEXASGIRLMAMMA : cant group all homeless into one category, some are trying to better their situation
mm4731 : How do you know this? Have you ever met one and tried to help them?
Some people lost everything in house fires or floods. You think they want to be homeless?
A person is laying on the sidewalk with a six pack of alcohol and children are walking past because this is a major sidewalk towards the schools. The person is at the coordinates 30.0689817, -95.2111593 - the corner of Northpark Woodland Hills. Os there anything legally that can be done?
TEXASGIRLMAMMA : how do you know they aren't? Have you talked to every homeless person? And yes, Ive talked to homeless people that were trying to better their situation. Some people lost everything in house fires or floods. You think they want to be homeless? Some have mental health conditions with no family, some deal with addiction but that doesn't mean they aren't trying.
mm4731 : And some are dangerous. Not all but some
Please understand, I don't want to wake up and find him passed out in my front yard. But these people do have a story. Most of us showed compassion for the man whose mother posted on here because she humanized him for us. We realized that he was a person and could be one of our own if the fates were different. But he probably isn't much different than this man in the picture. In 1981, President Reagan deinstitutionalized the mentally ill and emptied the psychiatric hospitals into the care of community clinics. It sounded like a good idea at the time, But a great many of these people suffer from paranoia, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. They aren't going to seek treatment voluntarily. The deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill has increased the number of homeless and mental illness. Our jails and prisons house people that would have once been served in residential hospitals. These people are on the streets because there is no place that they can be sent to. There are no public hospitals for the long term residential care of the mentally ill. If their family is in the picture, they are as helpless as we are in most cases. We can't just keep pretending that this problem only exists in large urban areas or is only about drugs and alcoholism. I don't know the answer and don't pretend to be more intelligent or compassionate than any of you, but I do know it's more complex than addiction. It's that, on top of severe brain dysfunction.
Please understand, I don't want to wake up and find him passed out in my front yard. But these people do have a story. Most of us showed compassion for the man whose mother posted on here because she humanized him for us. We realized that he was a person and could be one of our own if the fates were different. But he probably isn't much different than this man in the picture. In 1981, President Reagan deinstitutionalized the mentally ill and emptied the psychiatric hospitals into the care of community clinics. It sounded like a good idea at the time, But a great many of these people suffer from paranoia, bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia. They aren't going to seek treatment voluntarily. The deinstitutionalization of the mentally ill has increased the number of homeless and mental illness. Our jails and prisons house people that would have once been served in residential hospitals. These people are on the streets because there is no place that they can be sent to. There are no public hospitals for the long term residential care of the mentally ill. If their family is in the picture, they are as helpless as we are in most cases. We can't just keep pretending that this problem only exists in large urban areas or is only about drugs and alcoholism. I don't know the answer and don't pretend to be more intelligent or compassionate than any of you, but I do know it's more complex than addiction. It's that, on top of severe brain dysfunction.
Promoting a lifestyle none of us would wish on another makes no sense. Give responsibly.
You nailed it. I went through the closing of institutions in '81. I was trying to find a job in the field and it was flooded with professionals looking for jobs after being let go when they closed the doors.
There are long term , private care places- insurance doesn't cover those. They run 5-10k a month- that was 5 times our mortgage way more than hubs salary. So yes the wealthy have that option but the middle and lower class don't. Some families abandon their sick family member and I can't judge them as I have lived that hellish life of physical,verbal and emotional abuse with my DS. Then there are those people who just leave their families- not wanting to take their meds or live with their families rules( DS did that for a week).
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TEXASGIRLMAMMA : how do you know they aren't? Have you talked to every homeless person? And yes, Ive talked to homeless people that were trying to better their situation. Some people lost everything in house fires or floods. You think they want to be homeless? Some have mental health conditions with no family, some deal with addiction but that doesn't mean they aren't trying.
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