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by: uneasyrider Active Indicator LED Icon 3 OP 
~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:00pm  
Does anyone know if the lakes located at WLHP and KWD ( where the apartments were before demolition) will be enhanced to contain run-off/drainage after the new construction is complete? I'm sure it's been stated somewhere I'm just too lazy to research.https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0528998,-95.1818604,775m/data=!3m1!1e3 4951
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ET Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:05pm  
Does anyone know if the lakes located at WLHP and KWD ( where the apartments were before demolition) will be enhanced to contain run-off/drainage after the new construction is complete? I'm sure it's been stated somewhere I'm just too lazy to research.https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0528998,-95.1818604,775m/data=!3m1!1e3
 
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I will assume you mean the stores. A storm water management plan is a requirement prior to COH building permitting. That usually means some sort of offset to any take away 4951
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~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:10pm  
It might cause kingwood Dr to flood over there during a deluge. I don't recall northpark ever flooding in front of the Catholic church before, but did now that the neighborhood has been put up behind it. Those retention ponds had nowhere to go but Northpark. Of course a 700 house neighborhood takes up a much bigger footprint than a shopping center so it could end up being a non-issue. 4951
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uneasyrider Active Indicator LED Icon 3 OP 
~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:18pm  
I will assume you mean the stores
 
@ET: Yes the new HEB and others. Sorry I assumed everyone knew what was coming. I know Chick-filet was required to provide water retention but they're just a small "drop in the bucket" compared to this new construction. 
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~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:22pm  

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>> I will assume you mean the stores
 
@ET: Yes the new HEB and others. Sorry I assumed everyone knew what was coming. I know Chick-filet was required to provide water retention but they're just a small "drop in the bucket" compared to this new construction. 
 
@uneasyrider:
 
Well you wrote "the lakes". I didn't think we were getting any of those. Maybe a pond.
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uneasyrider Active Indicator LED Icon 3 OP 
~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:31pm  

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@ET: Yes the new HEB and others. Sorry I assumed everyone knew what was coming. I know Chick-filet was required to provide water retention but they're just a small "drop in the bucket" compared to this new construction. 
 
@uneasyrider:
 
Well you wrote "the lakes". I didn't think we were getting any of those. Maybe a pond.
 
@ET: Maybe I overstated the size but that's why I included the map link, I hope it came up ok.https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0528998,-95.1818604,775m/data=!3m1!1e3
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~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 6:35pm  

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@ET: Yes the new HEB and others. Sorry I assumed everyone knew what was coming. I know Chick-filet was required to provide water retention but they're just a small "drop in the bucket" compared to this new construction. 
 
@uneasyrider:
 
Well you wrote "the lakes". I didn't think we were getting any of those. Maybe a pond.
 
@ET: Maybe I overstated the size but that's why I included the map link, I hope it came up ok.https://www.google.com/maps/@30.0528998,-95.1818604,775m/data=!3m1!1e3
 
@uneasyrider:
 
Understand what you are saying now. My permitting statement still stands. It is all engineered and supposed to offset. I have my doubts as to the validity of the give and take but I'm not an engineer. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   May 30, '16 9:06pm  
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~ 7 years ago   May 31, '16 7:03am  
Exactly @ET.  But driving by that culvert just before the new HEB center, on Kingwood Dr. I wonder what is going on.  I have never seen that culvert overflow.  I know there were signs forever advertising that 8 acres for sale.  I feel bad if anyone bought it.  They bought 8 acres or underwater property.
 
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Might have been the backup from the lake. Our street flooded this weekend for the first time since it became a street. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   May 31, '16 7:04am  

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>> Exactly @ET.  But driving by that culvert just before the new HEB center, on Kingwood Dr. I wonder what is going on.  I have never seen that culvert overflow.  I know there were signs forever advertising that 8 acres for sale.  I feel bad if anyone bought it.  They bought 8 acres or underwater property.
 
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Might have been the backup from the lake. Our street flooded this weekend for the first time since it became a street.
 
And the river/lake crested at the highest level since the 94 floods. That is not an HEB caused problem.
 
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~ 7 years ago   May 31, '16 9:45am  
I don't know the specifics, but those retention ponds for new developments have a couple of conditionsEmoticonart of the purpose of the pond is to retain any hazardous spills on the property so remediation can be done before it gets into the general drainage system.The size of the ponds are defined to hold only a certain amount of rain on that property.  Any more than that and it flows into the general drainage system.At chemical plants and refineries, we had a similar system.  We captured the first few inches of rain in a large tank, then let the rest of the storm water drainage flow off the site.  If we had had any spills, leaks, etc., the first few inches of rain flushed it into the tank.  The water would then be tested for contaminants.  If clean, the water was drained into the general offsite drainage system.  If it was contaminated, it was appropriately treated before being released.  Some locations used large retention ponds and others used an above-ground storage tank. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   May 31, '16 9:58am  
I don't know the specifics, but those retention ponds for new developments have a couple of conditionsEmoticonart of the purpose of the pond is to retain any hazardous spills on the property so remediation can be done before it gets into the general drainage system.The size of the ponds are defined to hold only a certain amount of rain on that property.  Any more than that and it flows into the general drainage system.At chemical plants and refineries, we had a similar system.  We captured the first few inches of rain in a large tank, then let the rest of the storm water drainage flow off the site.  If we had had any spills, leaks, etc., the first few inches of rain flushed it into the tank.  The water would then be tested for contaminants.  If clean, the water was drained into the general offsite drainage system.  If it was contaminated, it was appropriately treated before being released.  Some locations used large retention ponds and others used an above-ground storage tank.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
I understand the spill concerns for petroleum tank farms, not so much for
retail operations - those will be very small at best.
 
Ahh never mind you are talking storm water management as opposed to building permitting. Two different things but tied together somewhat. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   May 31, '16 4:01pm  
Anyone else remember the articles in the news  last fall proposing a reduction in the size of retention ponds needed at new developments in Harris and Montgomery counties? Justification was that normal rains rarely filled the ponds.Remember thinking that might be a problem... 4951
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