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Man just readnig this article 56K people killed.. That is nuts... I looked up the Iraq death toll and it was like 103K-113K... That is a lot of people!
 
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/03/texas


Jul 4, 2012 - 08:53 am
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56,000 isnt even close to the real number

Jul 4, 2012 - 08:58 am
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I know right now you really have to be careful in places like Ecuador, Colombia, and Costa Rica, traveling with companies you have to have kidnapping insurance in those places.  But they won't even insure you right now if you go to Mexico.  

Just like Colombia, this is going to kill their economy.  And they will have do what Colombia did, and get it cleaned up.  Shame when Bogota is safer than any city in Mexico.  Why anyone would go to Mexico right now, for any reason is beyond me.  

And you so right @mm4731, this is no where near the real number.  No where at all.

Jul 4, 2012 - 10:09 am
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56,000 isnt even close to the real number


@mm4731:  No doubt man I believe that.. That is crazy!



Jul 4, 2012 - 11:36 am
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Jul 4, 2012 - 01:02 pm
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I travel for a living and I can choose where to go. I don't go to Mexico anymore, but I absolutely love Bogota! I can go out by myself, stay out until dark and I always feel safe. The people are so friendly and helpful since my Spanish is pathetic. It's just like any big city...lots of people walking the streets and shopping. I hope they fix things in Mexico soon...I miss going there.

Jul 4, 2012 - 08:19 pm
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56,000 isnt even close to the real number


@mm4731:  No doubt man I believe that.. That is crazy!




@Wooderson:


I have seen some videos of how the cartel disposes of bodies....the number is probably at least triple.

Jul 5, 2012 - 07:52 am
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56,000 isnt even close to the real number


@mm4731:  No doubt man I believe that.. That is crazy!




@Wooderson:


I have seen some videos of how the cartel disposes of bodies....the number is probably at least triple.


@Littlegoo:  It's like the war no one wants to talk about.. you see quick news clips about some bodies being found but not much more than that... Absolutely crazy



Jul 5, 2012 - 09:37 am
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It's all political.....Mexico still needs Americans to come down and spend their money, yet they don't want to do anything about the cartel.
 
The border areas are disgusting...I don't understand why anyone would want to step foot over there. Sure, the crime has spread to other parts, but the border is still the worst.
 
 

Jul 6, 2012 - 12:12 pm
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And because our Gov will post a sign at the boarder saying, This area is not safe, instead of building a fence, and patrolling it, that crime is coming to us.  Every single day.

This has nothing to do with illegals, this has to do with stopping the drug cartels.  

Can you even imagine being one of the poor American's who owns a ranch on the boarder?  You land is not your own, and you can't do a dang thing about it.  Everyone who has a house and land on the boarder, are all but under house arrest.  They can't leave their property unattended.   It will not be long, before those law abiding citizens snap and the boarder will become a blood bath.  

Phoenix, I think it was last year, had a higher rate of kidnapping than Mexico City.  And it was 99% related to the Mexican Drug Cartels.  How can any US citizen not have an issue with this?

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remember you are reading reported numbers which is presented by the BIASED NEWS... I think its more than 56k in Mexico,,, cant compare to Iraq, because in Iraq it was a full on military combat war....

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My brother in law and sIster in law are going to mexico in a few weeks. We all keep telling them they're crazy.

Jul 7, 2012 - 10:34 am
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An old friend of mine went to Mexico a little while back and had a blast!  They went to one of those all inclusive resorts in Cozumel (I think)...they didn't have any problems....  I still would NOT go to Mexico...no way.  Too scary...So many other places that I could travel to w/o such high crime/risk involved. 

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Even the all inclusive places cannot guarantee your safety in Mexico right now.

Like you said @pharlap, there are too many places right now you can go and the odds will be higher that you will leave with your head attached



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wow, this news has been going on for yrs. ths for update. 
 
maybe contact ur local congressmen and inquire, why are tax dollars arent spent helping mexico..
 
unlike iraq who has oil.. are tax payers monies destroy and rebuild.. They now have better intra power structure then us...  and we pd for it. lol..  duped?

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wow, this news has been going on for yrs. ths for update. 
 
maybe contact ur local congressmen and inquire, why are tax dollars arent spent helping mexico..
 
unlike iraq who has oil.. are tax payers monies destroy and rebuild.. They now have better intra power structure then us...  and we pd for it. lol..  duped?


@tomeb: no, there were many reasons as to why we were in Iraq:
 
1) take the fight to the terrorist in their own backyard, as opposed to having it play out on American soil especially after 9/11
2) try to set an example in that part of the world that besides Israel, democracy and capitalism CAN work if given a chance, depsite the history in that part of the world
3) we put a better infrastructure in place and it opens the door for opportunities for Americans and Amercan companies here in our country to expand operations over there ...More JOBS........
4) protects national interest for American's working over there and yes energy production, as you so eloquently pointed out........Now let me point something else out to you........
 
Ever heard of Madagascar ( no not the hokey disney animated movie either...) It's a country off the southeastern coast of Africa facing the Indian ocean...if anything were to ever happen over there, we would jump in  a heartbeat...know why??? Because it is where 99.9% of all vanilla beans/production are grown/harvested...you say big deal,  right? Well their are a lot of medicines that plenty of Americans depend on that derive from the extract of the vanilla bean that keep folks healthy and alive ....not to mention all the commercial applications derived from said crop!! 



 

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