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How is the world's wealth distributed.

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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:28am  
Needless to say, my grandmother didn't work in management, and neither did their grandmothers. Only one of us is tackling why you have to work in management. Ironically, it's only you arguing that unlike all of the grandmothers that preceded you, you're in management because you didn't try hard enough.
 
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Actually, I am doing what I do because I would be bored sitting At home. I don't NEED to work. We make enough of of my husbands salary and interest off of evil investments in property we OWN. I LOVE timber and natural gas corporations.Emoticon 4951
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:31am  

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>> Absolutely not, I have made my share of mistakes but i have learned from them. I do not try to pretend to know it All, I don't but I have picked up a few things along the way and I have always found value in what others have done before, whether or not I agree or it could have been done another way.
 
@BooBear: So then perhaps you should start asking why 300 people have more wealth than 3 billion people and start addressing the real question: is it because 300 people try harder than 3 billion people, or is it because the system's rewards and punishments are flawed and not focused on productivity and do not encourage productivity.
 
@EvanCarroll: what EXACTLY do you consider productivity? I think we may have differing views.
 
Which system are we referring to? The US?
 
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:32am  

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>> Absolutely not, I have made my share of mistakes but i have learned from them. I do not try to pretend to know it All, I don't but I have picked up a few things along the way and I have always found value in what others have done before, whether or not I agree or it could have been done another way.
 
@BooBear: So then perhaps you should start asking why 300 people have more wealth than 3 billion people and start addressing the real question: is it because 300 people try harder than 3 billion people, or is it because the system's rewards and punishments are flawed and not focused on productivity and do not encourage productivity.
 
@EvanCarroll: how many people do YOU have more wealth than? Do you think it is fair?
 
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:37am  
When @EvanCarroll gives away 50%  of his income, then MAYBE I will listen to some of his tirades. 4951
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:38am  
When @EvanCarroll gives away 50%  of his income, then MAYBE I will listen to some of his tirades.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
He makes, according to when he said he made almost 2 months salary on one commission, a guess, up to $30,000 a year...how many people make more or less than that world wide? 4951
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 11:42am  

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>> When @EvanCarroll gives away 50%  of his income, then MAYBE I will listen to some of his tirades.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
He makes, according to when he said he made almost 2 months salary on one commission, a guess, up to $30,000 a year...how many people make more or less than that world wide?
 
@BooBear: Compared to the rest of the world, he is rich.  Damn Capitalist!
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EvanCarroll Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:02pm  
@EvanCarroll: how many people do YOU have more wealth than? Do you think it is fair?
 
@BooBear: No, it's not fair. I admit it, and we should fix it. See how difficult being honest is?
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EvanCarroll Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:04pm  
@EvanCarroll: what EXACTLY do you consider productivity? I think we may have differing views.
 
@BooBear: Productivity as defined by the art of production. As in, not what the top 300 people in the world do. They don't produce anything. They own things that produce, because they're allowed to "own" them. They extract wealth from workers that produce. It's telling the guy on the sweat shop, if he works harder the guy that owns the sweat shop can take a longer vacation and buy another sweat shop: that's not incentivizing the party that produces to produce more. 4951
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:05pm  

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>> @EvanCarroll: how many people do YOU have more wealth than? Do you think it is fair?
 
@BooBear: No, it's not fair. I admit it, see how difficult that is?
 
@EvanCarroll:
 
OK, you admit it....now what are you going to do?
Do you think you have worked harder than someone who made NO effort at all and has never even attempted to do better? 4951
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EvanCarroll Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:06pm  
OK, you admit it....now what are you going to do?
Do you think you have worked harder than someone who made NO effort at all and has never even attempted to do better?
 
@BooBear: Yes, I do work harder than the Walton family. Unfortunately, my dad didn't start the world's biggest retailer.
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~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:09pm  
Productivity as defined by the art of production. As in, not what the top 300 people in the world do. They don't produce anything. They own things that produce, because they're allowed to "own" them. They extract wealth from workers that produce. It's telling the guy on the sweat shop, if he works harder the guy that owns the sweat shop can take a longer vacation and buy another sweat shop: that's not incentivizing the party that produces to produce more.
 
@EvanCarroll: But it could be the top 300 produced so much, they made extra money. They also might have saved that money instead of spending it on booze and parties, video games, etc.
Then they started a business. They would most likely pay some rent and buy products to run their business. Also most likely suffering the low income of business start-ups.So It is hard to say they don't deserve it.What I hear you saying EC is if you take 2 people, both make $1 a day.One saves 50 cents of theirs to someday start their own business, and one buys beer instead, the one who saved is not worthy of reaping the benefits of their actions. 4951
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:09pm  

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>> @EvanCarroll: what EXACTLY do you consider productivity? I think we may have differing views.
 
@BooBear: Productivity as defined by the art of production. As in, not what the top 300 people in the world do. They don't produce anything. They own things that produce, because they're allowed to "own" them. They extract wealth from workers that produce. It's telling the guy on the sweat shop, if he works harder the guy that owns the sweat shop can take a longer vacation and buy another sweat shop: that's not incentivizing the party that produces to produce more.
 
@EvanCarroll: I participate in all of the above and we are not in the top 300. Michael and me worked our **** off and spent many years trying to figure out how to feed 3 kids. I won't be ashamed of that and it proves to me that you CAN work your way out of destitution.
 
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EvanCarroll Active Indicator LED Icon 6 OP 
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:11pm  
But it could be the top 300 produced so much, they made extra money. They also might have saved that money instead of spending it on booze and parties, video games, etc.
 
@FoFa: no it doesn't. Capitalism doesn't reward people that produce. It rewards capitalists that own people (and other things) that produce.
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:12pm  

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>> OK, you admit it....now what are you going to do?
Do you think you have worked harder than someone who made NO effort at all and has never even attempted to do better?
 
@BooBear: Yes, I do work harder than the Walton family. Unfortunately, my dad didn't start the world's biggest retailer.
 
@EvanCarroll:
 
And how about Sam and his wife and kids that worked 18 hour days in the first small store to become the worlds largest employer? So I guess you only consider physical labor as being productive? 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Jul 23, '13 12:12pm  
Evan Carroll, as usual you're not making any sense.  What do I have to do with a person who made a billion? Why should I feel shortchanged? I can't wrap my mind around people who want equal distribution of wealth ... I'm not global, so on the whole I just care about this country & personally  trying to survive this bad experiment!    Do you feel like a loser? 4951
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