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by: Humbletexan1 Active Indicator LED Icon 1 OP 
~ 10 years ago   Sep 28, '13 10:34pm  
I will start by saying I know little about Obamacare. However, Channel 11 just did a piece on this. Americans will be required by law to have health insurance or face fines. Illegal and undocumented workers are exempt. They can go to any major hospital and be treated without insurance and the taxpayer will foot the bill. Am I the only one having a problem with this? As an American I will face penalties but an ILLEGAL will not. Wow! 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 28, '13 10:42pm  
I will start by saying I know little about Obamacare. However, Channel 11 just did a piece on this. Americans will be required by law to have health insurance or face fines. Illegal and undocumented workers are exempt. They can go to any major hospital and be treated without insurance and the taxpayer will foot the bill. Am I the only one having a problem with this? As an American I will face penalties but an ILLEGAL will not. Wow!
 
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Mod request: Please categorize these kinds of discussions under the "New & Politics" category. Thanks!
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 28, '13 10:43pm  
I will start by saying I know little about Obamacare. However, Channel 11 just did a piece on this. Americans will be required by law to have health insurance or face fines. Illegal and undocumented workers are exempt. They can go to any major hospital and be treated without insurance and the taxpayer will foot the bill. Am I the only one having a problem with this? As an American I will face penalties but an ILLEGAL will not. Wow!
 
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It sucks! Time to defund obamacare and send the illegals home back to where they came from! Let there own government take care of them! Emoticon 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 12:15pm  
Obama is just buying illegal votes.  The American taxpayer should NOT be picking up the tab for ILLEGAL healthcare.  We should be shipping them back to their country of origin!!!! 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 2:56pm  
Obama and his administration never use the words "illegal".  They always use "undocumented workers" and they are working hard to provide them with documents.  They also want to turn them into dependent citizens.  Dependent on the Democratic party so they always vote Democratic.  Dependent by giving them welfare, free medical, free education, and in many cases, free housing.  Of course, it's NOT free, they are using taxpayers money.  They want to turn them into voting citizens, not taxpaying citizens.I see it a little differently than most.  I feel this country DOES benefit from foreign workers.  I have had my roof replaced, my siding replaced with Hardy boards, landscaping done, etc and there was only 1 white kid on one of the crews.  The rest were all Hispanic.  They worked very hard and did good work  We have farmers that can't harvest their crops because they can't find enough field workers.  Sadly, most Americans can't, or won't, do that work for the pay they would receive.  Many would rather sit on their butts and draw Welfare.I feel we should have a system where foreign workers could get some sort of workers visa; however, they should NOT  receive medical or educational benefits unless they pay taxes.  And ANY VIOLATIONS of our laws would result in immediate ejection from our country.Obamacare is just one of the issues plaguing this country.  I think we need to freeze the budget until the ******s in DC get their acts together.  This means freezing Obamacare as well. 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 3:05pm  
Obama and his administration never use the words "illegal".  They always use "undocumented workers" and they are working hard to provide them with documents.  They also want to turn them into dependent citizens.  Dependent on the Democratic party so they always vote Democratic.  Dependent by giving them welfare, free medical, free education, and in many cases, free housing.  Of course, it's NOT free, they are using taxpayers money.  They want to turn them into voting citizens, not taxpaying citizens.I see it a little differently than most.  I feel this country DOES benefit from foreign workers.  I have had my roof replaced, my siding replaced with Hardy boards, landscaping done, etc and there was only 1 white kid on one of the crews.  The rest were all Hispanic.  They worked very hard and did good work  We have farmers that can't harvest their crops because they can't find enough field workers.  Sadly, most Americans can't, or won't, do that work for the pay they would receive.  Many would rather sit on their butts and draw Welfare.I feel we should have a system where foreign workers could get some sort of workers visa; however, they should NOT  receive medical or educational benefits unless they pay taxes.  And ANY VIOLATIONS of our laws would result in immediate ejection from our country.Obamacare is just one of the issues plaguing this country.  I think we need to freeze the budget until the ******s in DC get their acts together.  This means freezing Obamacare as well.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
I sort of agree but I think that at the same time it is advocating for a low wage type of working class. What would make you believe that if they were given a legal status that they would continue to work that type of job if they could find other, higher paying jobs without fear of being sent home?
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 3:18pm  

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>> Obama and his administration never use the words "illegal".  They always use "undocumented workers" and they are working hard to provide them with documents.  They also want to turn them into dependent citizens.  Dependent on the Democratic party so they always vote Democratic.  Dependent by giving them welfare, free medical, free education, and in many cases, free housing.  Of course, it's NOT free, they are using taxpayers money.  They want to turn them into voting citizens, not taxpaying citizens.I see it a little differently than most.  I feel this country DOES benefit from foreign workers.  I have had my roof replaced, my siding replaced with Hardy boards, landscaping done, etc and there was only 1 white kid on one of the crews.  The rest were all Hispanic.  They worked very hard and did good work  We have farmers that can't harvest their crops because they can't find enough field workers.  Sadly, most Americans can't, or won't, do that work for the pay they would receive.  Many would rather sit on their butts and draw Welfare.I feel we should have a system where foreign workers could get some sort of workers visa; however, they should NOT  receive medical or educational benefits unless they pay taxes.  And ANY VIOLATIONS of our laws would result in immediate ejection from our country.Obamacare is just one of the issues plaguing this country.  I think we need to freeze the budget until the ******s in DC get their acts together.  This means freezing Obamacare as well.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
I sort of agree but I think that at the same time it is advocating for a low wage type of working class. What would make you believe that if they were given a legal status that they would continue to work that type of job if they could find other, higher paying jobs without fear of being sent home?
 
@BooBear:  The legal status would be temporarily and would have to be renewed ONLY if they are still working.  If they get a higher paying job, then they would have to pay taxes as a visiting worker.  There should be a defined path to citizenship, but it should require paying taxes for a length of time before they can receive any benefits of being a citizen.
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 3:45pm  
You are giving too much credit to the employers. They are here working now because its a win win situation. The employer does not have to pay taxes or carry any type of insurance. The illegal workers do not always want to become citizens. Why would they? It costs a fortune to be here. 4951
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 29, '13 6:17pm  
You are giving too much credit to the employers. They are here working now because its a win win situation. The employer does not have to pay taxes or carry any type of insurance. The illegal workers do not always want to become citizens. Why would they? It costs a fortune to be here.
 
@BooBear: Then let's leave it at a win-win.  Employers get labor at cheap costs and foreign workers make more than they could in their home country.  That's fine as long as they don't use our medical, education, etc without paying for them. And they should still have to follow all the laws while in our country.
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 5:47am  
Obama is just    buying illegal votes.  The American taxpayer should NOT be picking up the tab for ILLEGAL healthcare.  We should be shipping them back to their country of origin!!!!
 
@doddlebug:  I don't know about you guys, but this line is what irritated me the MOST!  (all of this irritates me quite a bit)
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 8:02am  

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>> Obama is just    buying illegal votes.  The American taxpayer should NOT be picking up the tab for ILLEGAL healthcare.  We should be shipping them back to their country of origin!!!!
 
@doddlebug:  I don't know about you guys, but this line is what irritated me the MOST!  (all of this irritates me quite a bit)
 
@Nurse3: Uhm. Pretty sure you can't vote unless you're a citizen... so unless mass amounts of illegal immigrants are filing in and voting anyways, we can rest assured we wont have to worry about that. I am only sure of this because my girlfriend just got her citizenship from Canada recently and she said she had never been allowed to vote until now.
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 8:05am  
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 8:44am  

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>> Uhm. Pretty sure you can't vote unless you're a citizen...
@rmille34: Emoticon now thats funny!!! Emoticon
 
@mm4731: no dead people either?
 
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 8:48am  
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 8:49am  

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>> Uhm. Pretty sure you can't vote unless you're a citizen...
@rmille34: Emoticon now thats funny!!! Emoticon
 
@mm4731: Some people are so naive.
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~ 10 years ago   Sep 30, '13 10:36am  
Texas is well known for its voting dead. I guess they are zombies.Yet, people say that showing an ID when you vote is discrimination. 4951
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