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You've always been kind to me

You've always cared for me

You've always helped me

You've always showed me love

You've always been good to me

Good deeds are remembered in the hearts of man.

Mar 23, 2012 - 05:11 pm
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 I'm sometimes amazed at the sheer lack of reverence given to our Lord and Savior. I was just reading the pastor's notes on another web site about blind Bartimaeus. Your arrogance reminds me of a blind man cloaked by the worldly ways of sin. One day your situation or condition will make you call on Jesus. And he will here your cry. He will fix and change your condition. And save your soul as he has done for so many others. 

Jul 26, 2012 - 11:28 am
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I think one of the most telling arguments against belief=automatic salvation is Jesus telling the people to "love one another as I have loved you". 

And from James: "... though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?"

Granted, there are a lot of verses from either side, but I cannot imagine how someone selfish, careless, narcissistic, or whatever vice that a person does not ever attempt to correct or improve, could ever gain the same kind of salvation that others try to gain through works...

Jul 26, 2012 - 12:03 pm
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So basically what your telling me is that I can SIN my WHOLE life......... and then.......when I'm on my death bed & gasping for my last breath..... taking one final toke of some really good bud........I can just clasp my hands together & pray really, really, really, really, really hard to ask dear Jesus to let me come into his kingdom. If I can con err get him to say yes...... well whooooohoooo!!!! Let's party.............I mean what your saying is all those years of helping little old ladies across the street does not and will not count towards salvation!! Something is telling me that this is nothing more than a behavior management tool that Jesus cooked up to get everybody to tow the line.

 

Jul 29, 2012 - 05:55 am
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So basically what your telling me is that I can SIN my WHOLE life......... and then.......when I'm on my death bed & gasping for my last breath..... taking one final toke of some really good bud........I can just clasp my hands together & pray really, really, really, really, really hard to ask dear Jesus to let me come into his kingdom. If I can con err get him to say yes...... well whooooohoooo!!!! Let's party.............I mean what your saying is all those years of helping little old ladies across the street does not and will not count towards salvation!! Something is telling me that this is nothing more than a behavior management tool that Jesus cooked up to get everybody to tow the line.

 


@AcftDr.: I don't think it was Jesus that decided on this dogma.  It was the organized religions that came a few hundred years after him and to present day.

My father-in-law is a very religious man, but he also sins more in a month than I have in my whole lifetime.  Yet, he's worried about me going to hell because I'm not religious. 



Jul 29, 2012 - 02:43 pm
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I got kicked out of hell for sellin Ice water.

Jul 29, 2012 - 06:09 pm
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OK, thank you for your input!

Jul 30, 2012 - 12:27 am
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Wow...I can't believe this post is still active. I was surprised to see it today.

Jul 30, 2012 - 09:24 pm
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Wow...I can't believe this post is still active. I was surprised to see it today.


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Jul 30, 2012 - 09:26 pm
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LOL

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