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by: Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 6:05am  
Test results show that Prince died of an overdose of fentanyl, a synthetic opiate.  Fentanyl is estimated to be 50 times as powerful as heroin.  He had had hip surgery and apparently became addicted to the painkiller after surgery. 4951
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TexasOma Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 7:22am  
No surprise on the OD of narcotics. The surprise to me is the type of drug...Fentanyl.
 
What doctor prescribed that powerful pain med for home use? Maybe for the pain of cancer, but following HP surgery and for someone so young?
 
Oh yeah, must have been the same quack that prescribed proprophol fit Michael Jackson! 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 7:50am  
Heroin produces euphoria, fentanyl does not. . More apt would be a comparison to morphine. Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid pain killer engineered so as small quantities can be manufactured to produce desired effects. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 8:06am  
Heroin produces euphoria, fentanyl does not. . More apt would be a comparison to morphine. Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid pain killer engineered so as small quantities can be manufactured to produce desired effects.
 
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But what kind of doctor would even prescribe either of those drugs for home use, except for cancer! I wasn't comparing the properties of the drugs, comparing the lunacy of the so-called doctors ordering these type drugs for celebrities!
 
These doctors are Stupid! Totally insane! 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 8:09am  
My MiL takes a similar patch called Butrans. It has less side effects, especially for the elderly but it is equally as potent and dangerous if misused. She takes it for stenosis and bad arthritis in her upper back and neck. We have to go to a pain management doctor every 30 days before getting a one month refill because it is a very strong drug and could be misused. We see the doctor (he is in the Woodlands but I picked him because he is an old friend whom I trust) every 3rd visit but otherwise we see a nurse practitioner. The doctor told me he is not as concerned with abuse in an 89 year old as a younger person, with them he will sometimes do urine or blood tests to check for abuse. All I know is it really works for mom and has been a lifesaver as she used to be in agony. The patch looks like a big band-aid, a 3 inch square. Unfortunately it irritates the skin, something to do with histamine production.  We spray Flonase (that stuff that is to keep your nose clear) on her skin first, let it dry and then apply the patch which lasts a week. Butrans is expensive, without a prescription it is over $500 a month. Mom has a very good prescription drug plan that gets it for $80 per month but I found that the manufacturer had a coupon that brings it to about $30. We have used the coupon code for a year, not sure how long it is good for as those kinds of pharmacy-coupons usually only last so long. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 8:26am  
He had had hip surgery and apparently became addicted to the painkiller after surgery.
 
@Retired_Engineer: Wow .. that makes me feel old every time I think about it. Prince had hip surgery.
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 8:51am  

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>> He had had hip surgery and apparently became addicted to the painkiller after surgery.
 
@Retired_Engineer: Wow .. that makes me feel old every time I think about it. Prince had hip surgery.
 
@uneasyrider: Maybe he had hip trouble because of his shoes?  It would seem you would be likely to injure something from some of those shoes, especially if you frolic on stage.  Who knows, we all have little issues as we age.  Fortunately for me at least none of them are worse than something an advil can't relieve. 
 
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 8:52am  
I took an elective in college on drugs and addiction. If not for that course I would have become addicted after suffering from a lot of broken bones from an IED hit. Even knowing that information it was still hard. I don't know how people could ever beat it without good information before they even started on how addiction works. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 9:06am  
It would seem you would be likely to injure something from some of those shoes, especially if you frolic on stage.
 
@buffaloglenn: Sports did it for me. I played basketball, football, tennis and even softball during my time in Louisiana. Also a few motorcycle mishaps didn't help either. I can't really complain about a little pain on rainy days but the past few days have been rough.   
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 9:10am  
I personally knew three people in my life that died as a result of drug use, all were in chronic pain for a variety of reasons and all were the result of prescription main meds.  I also watched one of my bosses lose his job over his addiction due to chronic back pain.  I really felt for all of these folks because for them it was not as simple as getting to rehab and cleaning yourself up (as if that is really that simple itself) the pain still has to be managed.Sad deal all the way around.  When my boss was travelling with me it always blew my mind how easy it was for him to find pills in a different city. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 9:22am  
When my boss was travelling with me it always blew my mind how easy it was for him to find pills in a different city.
 
@ForeCPA90: If there is money to be made someone will always have what you want or in his case need. That's one argument for making pot legal but that's another discussion.   
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 10:34am  
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 10:50am  

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>> I personally knew three people in my life that died as a result of drug use, all were in chronic pain for a variety of reasons and all were the result of prescription main meds.  I also watched one of my bosses lose his job over his addiction due to chronic back pain.  I really felt for all of these folks because for them it was not as simple as getting to rehab and cleaning yourself up (as if that is really that simple itself) the pain still has to be managed.Sad deal all the way around.  When my boss was travelling with me it always blew my mind how easy it was for him to find pills in a different city.
 
@ForeCPA90:  I lost my mother and younger sister to painkiller abuse.  My mother had back surgery when I was a teenager.  She was an RN and knew what to tell the family QUACK doctor so she could get more/stronger medicine.  At the end, my father had to put her in a hospice because he couldn't take care of her.  One of the nurses went to his house and explained that my mother was taking enough pain medication that it would kill an average person.  They tried to lower her dose and put her on some different medicine and she died two days later.  I think she just gave up.  I don't doubt that my mother had some pain, but painkillers trick your mind into thinking the pain is worse so you'll take more.My younger sister had been using a variety of drugs for a long time.  She drank alcohol while using pain medicine.  She vomited in her sleep and chocked to death on her vomit.  She had some minor injuries from a car wreck but nothing to justify continuing to take painkillers years later.I could have gone down similar paths after my motorcycle accident.  The nurses could give me an injection (morphine?) every four hours.  I got so I would watch the clock and at exactly four hours, I hit the buzzer and asked for another shot.  The injection put me in la-la land.  I had friends and family that came to visit and I realized that I was so wasted that I didn't remember their previous visit(s).   The next day, I told the doctor not to let me have pain shots any more.  He agreed only if he could give me pain pills.  I took pills for two days then stopped them altogether.  To this day, I don't like taking painkillers.I use the word painkiller literally as a reminder that they can kill.
 
@Retired_Engineer: It's interesting how people can have different reactions to painkillers too. Some love how they feel and become addicted while others can't stand it. I know when I had morphine after surgery I just felt sick and not able to gather my thoughts and hated it. I only stayed on it because it helped with the pain enough so I could get some sleep, but could not wait to get off that stuff. I was also prescribed some Xanex once a long time ago. I took one pill and did not like it's effect at all and never took another. Yet others can have one try of painkillers or other controlled substances and get addicted. It's like alcohol - how can so many drink it with no problem yet others get addicted. Maybe there is something in some people that makes them more likely to have an addiction to certain substances than others.
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 10:54am  
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 11:07am  
I am new to these forums but unfortunately, can totally relate to this topic as my sister died from a Fentanyl overdose over two years ago. Yes, she had some minor medical issues but nothing to the extent that Fentanyl was warranted. She went to a "pain doctor" who gave her the prescription after asking just a few questions and taking her money. Despite my repeated talks and warnings to her that if she kept this practice up that she would possibly go to sleep one night and not wake up, she did not listen and that is exactly what happened. How these "doctors" are able to hand out these prescriptions to patients they see maybe once or twice for 5-10 minutes and keep their licenses is a mystery to me. I was a nurse for over 20 years and was fortunate to work for doctors that took their licenses and responsibilities seriously. It's just very sad that some doctors are all about the money and only the money. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Jun 3, '16 11:15am  

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>> Heroin produces euphoria, fentanyl does not. . More apt would be a comparison to morphine. Fentanyl is a synthetic opioid pain killer engineered so as small quantities can be manufactured to produce desired effects.
 
@DanStanton:
 
But what kind of doctor would even prescribe either of those drugs for home use, except for cancer! I wasn't comparing the properties of the drugs, comparing the lunacy of the so-called doctors ordering these type drugs for celebrities!
 
These doctors are Stupid! Totally insane!
 
@TexasOma:  I wasn't directing my comments to you, but the op, who was miming what the press has been saying, comparing heroin to fentanyl. Crooked doctors prescribe fentanyl to drug addicts..
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