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by: Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:19am  
Mayor Turner is considering eliminating subsidies to HOAs that prefer to use a trash service other than the COH.  If this happens, we will face a choice of using the COH trash pickup which does curb-side pickup only, or paying more to continue our "back-door" trash pickup. 4951
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ET Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:23am  
Eh, I can walk/roll it to the curb.  Have to put the recycling out there anyway. The downside is the jokers that wait two days to bring the empty container back.  4951
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:31am  
We have COH Trash Collection in Forest Cove and it actually works very well.
Of course, not having curbs or sidewalks makes it necessary to move the containers back to storage immediately. There is no room on the street to drive if the containers are left out.
Another of those "train the young so the grownups will eventually learn through attrition" things. 4951
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Steven H Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:41am  
COH trash pickup is a joke 4951
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13 OP 
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:45am  
COH trash pickup is a joke
 
@Steven H:  Could you explain, please?
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:46am  
Removed By Request 4951
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podunk Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 11:50am  
Did COH in Rice military and Waste Mgmt in Mills.  I really haven't noticed any difference between the 2 other than WM allows more containers. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:26pm  
No issue with COH in Forest Cove for me. Fairly on time and on target. I even put use motor oil out and they pick it up. Once more than the limit and they still grabbed it. Just put out 50ft of rotted fence and picked it all up, didn't even break it up, just 5ft sections of fence thrown in the yard, not even piled neat. 4951
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TEXASGIRLMAMMA Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:28pm  
Mayor Turner is considering eliminating subsidies to HOAs that prefer to use a trash service other than the COH.  If this happens, we will face a choice of using the COH trash pickup which does curb-side pickup only, or paying more to continue our "back-door" trash pickup.
@Retired_Engineer:  Wouldn't Turner's actions cause people to loose their jobs?  I like my garbage service just fine.  They are great and they will take anything I put out including big stuff like appliances.  I guess he thinks it is unfair to others that do not have the opportunity to pay for better garbage pickup.  
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:29pm  
Will Bear Branchers get sweet new Garbage can? Ours our hanging on for dear life! 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:32pm  
Mayor Turner is considering eliminating subsidies to HOAs that prefer to use a trash service other than the COH.  If this happens, we will face a choice of using the COH trash pickup which does curb-side pickup only, or paying more to continue our "back-door" trash pickup.
 
I just read the article, it is not very clear however my understanding it that it only affects HOA's that get paid a subsidy for COH trash pick-up or that the homeowner does not pay for their own trash pick-up. I know when I lived in Elm Grove I had COH trash pick-up and did not pay for it however in Hunter's Ridge I pay for trash pick-up with WM.  Does that mean the Hunter's Ridge HOA is paying part of my trash bill?The article also stated "cutting these sponsorship payments to the 48,000 participating homes would save the city $3.5million"  When you consider the number of homes in Houston, Kingwood for that matter, it is not a lot of homes affected.  I sure there will be more to come....
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TEXASGIRLMAMMA Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:33pm  
I hate those big cans.  They are almost as tall as me. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:39pm  

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>> Mayor Turner is considering eliminating subsidies to HOAs that prefer to use a trash service other than the COH.  If this happens, we will face a choice of using the COH trash pickup which does curb-side pickup only, or paying more to continue our "back-door" trash pickup.
@Retired_Engineer:  Wouldn't Turner's actions cause people to loose their jobs?  I like my garbage service just fine.  They are great and they will take anything I put out including big stuff like appliances.  I guess he thinks it is unfair to others that do not have the opportunity to pay for better garbage pickup.  
 
@TEXASGIRLMAMMA:   It depends on what the HOAs and homeowners decide to do.  If enough HOAs switch to COH garbage pickup, the city may need to hire more garbage people, but WM and Best Trash MAY have to layoff some people. If the HOAs decide to keep their current garbage service, then things stay the same, EXCEPT the cost of garbage pickup will increase.  I don't know how much but it will be noticeable.
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:41pm  

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>> Mayor Turner is considering eliminating subsidies to HOAs that prefer to use a trash service other than the COH.  If this happens, we will face a choice of using the COH trash pickup which does curb-side pickup only, or paying more to continue our "back-door" trash pickup.
 
I just read the article, it is not very clear however my understanding it that it only affects HOA's that get paid a subsidy for COH trash pick-up or that the homeowner does not pay for their own trash pick-up. I know when I lived in Elm Grove I had COH trash pick-up and did not pay for it however in Hunter's Ridge I pay for trash pick-up with WM.  Does that mean the Hunter's Ridge HOA is paying part of my trash bill?The article also stated "cutting these sponsorship payments to the 48,000 participating homes would save the city $3.5million"  When you consider the number of homes in Houston, Kingwood for that matter, it is not a lot of homes affected.  I sure there will be more to come....
 
@Andreweggplant: I just can't buy the math on the savings.  Seems it would save the city more to just get out of the trash business.
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:42pm  
If it saves money I'm for it but it's often not that simple as balance lines. Do they have the resources right now to adjust? Likely not. Do they have enough people trained, no. Service quality will likely decline and they will likely increase costs. This is usually par for the course whenever they want more revenue. Quality declines and costs go up but, they get the big bag of coin to waste on whatever pork project they want. 4951
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~ 7 years ago   Apr 25, '16 12:45pm  
Here is the article.    48,000 homes are not that many in the grand scheme of things so I am guessing it will not be noticeable to the average homeowner.Mayor Sylvester Turner, working to close a $160 million budget deficit, has proposed scrapping payments that scores of Houston neighborhoods served by private trash haulers receive to help offset the cost of their waste contracts.The idea when the program started in the 1970s was that residents should not have to pay property taxes for city trash services they were not receiving - particularly because they were already paying for waste pickup in their homeowner association dues. The city also came out ahead because the $6 monthly per-house subsidy was cheaper than the cost of the city serving each home itself, now estimated at $18 per home per month.In scraping together a balanced budget for the fiscal year that starts in July, however, Turner felt the program was expendable. In many cases, the subsidies go to residents who have chosen to pay for more extensive services than those the city provides, such as having the trash picked up more frequently than once a week, or having workers walk up a resident's driveway to retrieve the trash rather than the homeowner rolling a bin to the curb.Cutting these "sponsorship" payments to the 48,000 homes participating would save the city $3.5 million."When I drilled down in every department and every line item and I saw that line item sticking out, my question was, 'Is this one that people can give up without hurting them and the core services, things that are essential to the city?' " Turner said. "I decided this was something the city at this particular point in time was not in a position to continue to sponsor."City Council will begin hearings on Turner's proposed budget Monday, leading up to a final vote that could come as early as May 25.In the past, mayors who sought to roll back the trash payments were rebuffed by council, and at least one neighborhood sued the city when its application to participate was denied.Councilman Dave Martin, whose District E contains 32 neighborhoods with sponsorship agreements, said he is concerned the move will wind up costing more if residents cancel their contracts and force the city to serve them."They're going after the consumers for the money instead of making the proper budget cuts within the city departments," Martin said. "Cut the budget an additional $3.5 million and leave everything alone. I can find a $3 million budget reduction underneath the pillows in some of the departments."'Taxes for nothing'Solid Waste Management Department leaders anticipate some neighborhoods will cancel their contracts but expect the change still will result in a net savings for the city.Trailwood Village board member Tricia Bagley repeated a common criticism among Kingwood residents, who feel the city forcibly annexed them in the 1990s to leech tax revenue out of an affluent area and provide few services in return. Without the trash subsidies, she said, her neighborhood will be "paying taxes for nothing.""I was shocked they were considering that. It's just a city thing that they tax us and then we don't see any results on it, and now they're not going to reimburse us on this?" Bagley said. "Some people will say, 'Oh well, rather than raise our assessment, let's just use the city.' And then some people may be up in arms because they're very accustomed to having backdoor trash pickup."At the $216 estimated cost of providing city waste services per home annually, Houston would need fewer than 16,000 homes to move from private waste contracts to city service to secure a net savings. That figure does not account for the cost of trash containers the city may need to purchase to begin serving a new neighborhood."If they end up saying it's that big of a difference, that they will give up their contracts and will turn to the city, then yeah, OK, more than likely I'll remove it," Turner said. "I'm not trying to make their situation bad, I'm simply trying to balance a budget that's $160 million short, and I've asked people to engage in shared sacrifice."The mayor also suggested, wearing a slight grin, that reporters examine the subdivisions now receiving trash subsidies.The three City Council districts home to 83 percent of the city's sponsorship agreements, records show, also are the three districts with the highest median household incomes in the city: District G on the west side, District E in Kingwood and Clear Lake, and District C, which covers much of the western half of the Inner Loop.An extra $6 per monthMartin acknowledged that he and many of his neighbors receiving private trash service in District E can cover a $6-per-month increase in their civic association dues."If you're used to getting your trash picked up twice a week and you're used to backdoor service, most people are probably going to say, 'Keep my six bucks,' " Martin said. "They're mostly the people that have the means to pay an extra $6 a month."Yorkshire Civic Association president Jack Smart echoed that. Residents in his 157-home neighborhood at Memorial and Kirkwood pay $17.52 a month for trash service after the city reimbursement, he said, and likely accept paying $23.52 a month if the subsidy ends, too. Yorkshire residents get twice-weekly pickup from their back doors, Smart said, and have more flexibility on when and how heavy trash is picked up than the city provides."Sylvester Turner is a pretty savvy guy, in my opinion. He may be counting on the fact that a lot of the wealthier subdivisions don't want to put up with the level of service the city provides," Smart said. "Most of the people here would rather continue with private pickup even if we have to pay an extra $6 a month." 4951
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