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The Oilman who loved Dictators

The Oilman who loved Dictators

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by: deltadawn Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 1:57pm  
 Very interesting reading  http://www.alternet.org/books/oilman-who-loved-dictators-how-major-american-oil-company-supported-fascism "..how the brothers and oil magnates Charles and David Koch spent hundreds
of billions of dollars to buy the Republican Party and America’s
democratic politics, offers a vivid account of the way their father Fred
launched the energy business they would inherit.  It was a classic case
of not letting “attachments” stand in the way of gain.  Fred happily
set up oil installations for Soviet dictator Joseph Stalin before the
United States recognized the Soviet Union in 1933, and then helped Adolf
Hitler build one of Nazi Germany’s largest oil refineries that would
later supply fuel to its air force, the Luftwaffe. ..." 4951
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deltadawn Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:00pm  
More  ..."Totally ignored by the world’s press, however, would be one
of Franco’s crucial allies, a man who lived neither in Berlin nor Rome.
With a globe on his desk and roll-down maps on the wall of his
elegantly wainscotted office, he could be found high in the iconic
Chrysler Building in the heart of New York City.Not one
of the hundreds of foreign correspondents who chronicled the bombing of
Madrid looked up at the ominous V-shaped formations of Hitler’s bombers
and wondered: Whose fuel is powering those aircraft? The oilman who
supplied that fuel would, in fact, prove to be the best American friend a
Fascist dictator could have. He would provide the Nationalists not only
with oil, but with an astonishing hidden subsidy of money, a generous
and elastic line of credit, and a stream of strategic intelligence.Torkild
Rieber was a barrel-chested, square-jawed figure whose presence
dominated any occasion. At elegant gathering spots, like New York’s 21 Club, where a hamburger-and-egg dish on the menu was named after him, he captivated listeners with tales of his rugged past...." 4951
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Safety44 Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:25pm  
More  ..."Totally ignored by the world’s press, however, would be one
of Franco’s crucial allies, a man who lived neither in Berlin nor Rome.
With a globe on his desk and roll-down maps on the wall of his
elegantly wainscotted office, he could be found high in the iconic
Chrysler Building in the heart of New York City.Not one
of the hundreds of foreign correspondents who chronicled the bombing of
Madrid looked up at the ominous V-shaped formations of Hitler’s bombers
and wondered: Whose fuel is powering those aircraft? The oilman who
supplied that fuel would, in fact, prove to be the best American friend a
Fascist dictator could have. He would provide the Nationalists not only
with oil, but with an astonishing hidden subsidy of money, a generous
and elastic line of credit, and a stream of strategic intelligence.Torkild
Rieber was a barrel-chested, square-jawed figure whose presence
dominated any occasion. At elegant gathering spots, like New York’s 21 Club, where a hamburger-and-egg dish on the menu was named after him, he captivated listeners with tales of his rugged past...."
 
@deltadawn: Big business has more skeletons than ancestors. And they have always been in it to make money, period,
 
Houston depends on Oil & Gas as part of its economic structure, but there is lot more going on in O&G than just Houston economics.
 
Deals made around the world is astonishing to say the least, always has been.
 
Countries controlled by dictators have always been a major employer of our overseas oil workers and contribute a great deal to the prosperity of our contract workers.
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:35pm  
The sad thing is that it's easier and cheaper to deal with a dictator than a democratic or republic country..... you only need to bribe one person. 4951
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Ebola Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:37pm  
All I have to say is. democRATS suck more. 4951
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ET Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:39pm  
you only need to bride one person
 
@Retired_Engineer: Hmmm, Freudian slip??
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:45pm  

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>> you only need to bride one person
 
@Retired_Engineer: Hmmm, Freudian slip??
 
@ET:  I guess that has worked as well.
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 2:52pm  
Royal Dutch/Shell also worked with Hitler.Many rich got that way from despicable practises.  Look at Joseph P Kennedy.  He made his fortune from stock manipulation, insider trading, etc.  He also bootlegged alcohol, had dealings with organized crime, etc etc.  This is what allowed his children to become "public servants" in politics.  He was a smart and crafty man, but he was a criminal that never got caught. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 3:54pm  
Royal Dutch/Shell also worked with Hitler.Many rich got that way from despicable practises.  Look at Joseph P Kennedy.  He made his fortune from stock manipulation, insider trading, etc.  He also bootlegged alcohol, had dealings with organized crime, etc etc.  This is what allowed his children to become "public servants" in politics.  He was a smart and crafty man, but he was a criminal that never got caught.
 
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I like to differ, he got caught alright. But his offspring paid the price.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 4:14pm  

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>> Royal Dutch/Shell also worked with Hitler.Many rich got that way from despicable practises.  Look at Joseph P Kennedy.  He made his fortune from stock manipulation, insider trading, etc.  He also bootlegged alcohol, had dealings with organized crime, etc etc.  This is what allowed his children to become "public servants" in politics.  He was a smart and crafty man, but he was a criminal that never got caught.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
I like to differ, he got caught alright. But his offspring paid the price.
 
 
@bubbleyes72:  It depends on what you consider as paying the price.  JFK and RFK were murdered in government service.  Certainly, Teddy never paid the price he should have.  He got away with manslaughter (at the least) and a coverup.
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ET Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 4:15pm  
JFK and RFK were murdered in government service.
 
@Retired_Engineer: Pretty big price.
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 4:18pm  

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>> JFK and RFK were murdered in government service.
 
@Retired_Engineer: Pretty big price.
 
@ET:  True, but what do their murders have to do with Joe Kennedy's misdeeds and criminal activities?
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Safety44 Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 4:26pm  
The Kennedy's were a favorite and influential family for years. But they certainly walked a fine line with regards to trouble,
 
The whole story has numerous weird twists hidden in the background... most of which was covered up or squelched in one way or another. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 6:04pm  
Again with the selective outrage brought to you by a biased new article. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 6:09pm  
The Kennedy's were a favorite and influential family for years. But they certainly walked a fine line with regards to trouble,
 
The whole story has numerous weird twists hidden in the background... most of which was covered up or squelched in one way or another.
 
@Safety44:  Yes, like in 1941, Joseph Kennedy had his 23 year old daughter Rosemary lobotomized, which turned her into a vegetable, and institutionalized her for the rest of her life because she acted out and was an embarrassment to the Kennedy family.  Lobotomies were still new procedure where they cut sections of the brain with the patient under a light sedative.  They would cut a section, then ask the patient some questions, then cut some more until they thought they cut enough. In her case, she ended up with the mental abilities of about a 2 year old.  They didn't even know what part of the brain controlled her behavior.  They assumed the frontal lobe, so that's where they cut.  She died of "natural causes" in 2005.And we think today's use of trying various anti-depressants is crude!
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~ 8 years ago   Mar 21, '16 6:14pm  

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@Retired_Engineer: Pretty big price.
 
@ET:  True, but what do their murders have to do with Joe Kennedy's misdeeds and criminal activities?
 
@Retired_Engineer: Don't think we will ever know.
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