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How I would fix Flint's water

How I would fix Flint's water

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by: beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:01am  
Drink water from my filtered Samsung fridge. Yes, it removes lead. Lead water is also safe to shower, does not absorb in skin. I have not seen any reports on this simple fix. What I have seen is is that they need like a billion dollars cause poor black people (not white poor or even rich black or white) are dying in the streets or something to that effect.    4951
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dac2010 Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:05am  
Sounds good but most would sell the fridge and be drinking lead water again within a week 4951
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beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:12am  
Fromm 2000-2010 they have lost 2600 residents every year. Their population is 98990 (2010). In 20 years they will be down to 46000 residents going with the law of averages. So the plan is to spend over 600 million to fix the water...hey why not just cut them a check, everybody gets a check for 1 million, that gets it well under 100 million. Just shut the town down, make it into state park. Sure the residents would not mind either. Not rational at all to spend 600 million on this problem but they sure as hell are trying to make it seem so.   4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:19am  
I can care less about the color of their skin or their pocketbooks. It's a fsskin disgrace that any government in America could do this to another human being.
How would I fix it?
Fire everyone, banning them from ever working in a capacity where they made any decisions.
For the people. ...
I would relocate them on a federal level and sue the state for reimbursement. They would get generational state paid medical, and not the county hospital. I'm talking the same treatment the government gets.
I would sue on behalf of every resident and every person that tested for lead that had traveled there.
That being said, do we really know what we are eating, drinking, putting on our skin? Include the clothing you wear and how it's made.
I've caught glimpses of the amazing race and some of the countries they go to that export goods here. Rats running through feces/ garbage filled streets.
As a society we should be more aware of what we eat, where things come from and what happens to the crap when it breaks.
Does the demographics of a neighborhood really matter when things go wrong to you? I only see human beings. I pause and put myself there. If I wouldn't want to be them, then it's friggen wrong. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:33am  
I'd like to add this thought. Where are all these so called pure bottled water companies?
Don't you thing they too should step up bringing in trucks and tankers? They make a huge profit on tap water. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:39am  
There are thousands of sink water filters being installed. The residents would like to bring the city back, the State has known about this for a long time, and gave bottled water to their own employees to use at home, while denying they knew the problem existed. 4951
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beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 11:46am  
Just shutdown the town. Not worth saving anyway, place has been in a free fall for like 40 years. Pay off the residents and close the doors. This was done in PA with a toxic coal mine. Not a big deal and not worth fixing. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:00pm  
Just shutdown the town. Not worth saving anyway, place has been in a free fall for like 40 years. Pay off the residents and close the doors. This was done in PA with a toxic coal mine. Not a big deal and not worth fixing.
 
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Centralia 4951
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beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:12pm  
On October 31, 2013, eight remaining residents settled their lawsuit; as
part of their settlement, they received a cash payout of $349,500 and
permission to stay in their homes for the rest of their lives. Paying the residents of Flint this much to move would be a big bargain yet I have not heard anything about this coarse of action. Good for everyone. Take the money and you want to stay then stay, nobody is forcing you to leave. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:25pm  
Just shutdown the town. Not worth saving anyway, place has been in a free fall for like 40 years. Pay off the residents and close the doors. This was done in PA with a toxic coal mine. Not a big deal and not worth fixing.
 
@beastmode: Yep - at what point is it even worth spending the public money to fix it?  Pay the folks to leave.  The real issue is that there was a political pissing contest on water supply, and the acting city manager (because no on really WANTS to try to run Flint) made the election to use a cheaper source, which reacted with the ancient lead pipes in the city and caused the problem.  The city didn't have enough money to replace the lead pipes in the first place, which was the REAL issue, because of a declining tax base and the enormity of the fix required.  Pay them to leave and settle; it will be cheaper than a government-run attempt at a fix now.
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:51pm  
I happen to be from a small town on the Mississippi river South of St Louis, MO.
 
It is the home of one of the largest lead shelters in the world. I worked there for my first ten years of employment.
 
They **** it down this past December.
 
The EPA removed 12 inches of dirt from yards and all the streets in the town over the years, paid out millions to people who developed lead poisoning. Many of these people were and some still are my very good friends.
 
It was worse when the kids were affected (physically and mentally) many passed away very young. Many still suffer.
 
Finally, they gave up and shut down the smelter and all the mines in Missouri. Numerous homes were condemned and people lost health, jobs, homes, etc. and it mattered not what race, color or religion they were. They lost it all.
 
What I'm leading up to is that there isn't enough money on earth to reimburse people for suffering due to lead poisoning. At the same time, keep in mind that these places are people's homes and lives that are being uprooted. The trama is terrific under these circumstances. Depression and suicides are rampant.
 
Pray that the people of Flint get Federal help as needed and that they overcome this.
And that the people and politicians of Kingwood are never forced to endure such. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:57pm  
I happen to be from a small town on the Mississippi river South of St Louis, MO.
 
It is the home of one of the largest lead shelters in the world. I worked there for my first ten years of employment.
 
They **** it down this past December.
 
The EPA removed 12 inches of dirt from yards and all the streets in the town over the years, paid out millions to people who developed lead poisoning. Many of these people were and some still are my very good friends.
 
It was worse when the kids were affected (physically and mentally) many passed away very young. Many still suffer.
 
Finally, they gave up and shut down the smelter and all the mines in Missouri. Numerous homes were condemned and people lost health, jobs, homes, etc. and it mattered not what race, color or religion they were. They lost it all.
 
What I'm leading up to is that there isn't enough money on earth to reimburse people for suffering due to lead poisoning. At the same time, keep in mind that these places are people's homes and lives that are being uprooted. The trama is terrific under these circumstances. Depression and suicides are rampant.
 
Pray that the people of Flint get Federal help as needed and that they overcome this.
And that the people and politicians of Kingwood are never forced to endure such.
 
@Safety44: Yep - it's no good growing up near a lead smelter.  But it would not have been practical for the government to try and replace all the topsoil and groundwater in the area.  Cheaper, and safer, to buy the people out of their homes and have them move to a safer place.  No different than living in an area prone to flooding or too close to any industrial accident (Chernobyl, for example).  The faster you get them out of there, the less health damage people suffer.  Flint made the water switch in 2014 (or 13, don't remember) so if they get going now they can stop the bleeding. 
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beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 3:59pm  
There is no way to truly right it. Unfortunately money is the only tool we have. Besides the town is garbage even before this incident. It was garbage in the 80's when  Micheal Moore did a documentary on it and has gotten worse since then. Time to put this town out of its misery. It's garbage because the tax revenue has dried up, no jobs and mass exodus of people. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 4:08pm  
There is no way to truly right it. Unfortunately money is the only tool we have. Besides the town is garbage even before this incident. It was garbage in the 80's when  Micheal Moore did a documentary on it and has gotten worse since then. Time to put this town out of its misery. It's garbage because the tax revenue has dried up, no jobs and mass exodus of people.
 
@beastmode: It's garbage to you because it's very different from where you live and the people are very different than you are.  It's a town like many others that have suffered since manufacturing headed for China.  But, no one, regardless of color, location, socioeconomic standing, deserves to be poisoned by the water they are paying to have pumped into their homes.  That's the thing.  The water wasn't free.  It's a product purchased for a cost.  The government provided them a faulty / dangerous product.  I don't care who you are, there should be recourse for that.
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Safety44 Active Indicator LED Icon 5
~ 8 years ago   Feb 10, '16 4:17pm  
There is no way to truly right it. Unfortunately money is the only tool we have. Besides the town is garbage even before this incident. It was garbage in the 80's when  Micheal Moore did a documentary on it and has gotten worse since then. Time to put this town out of its misery. It's garbage because the tax revenue has dried up, no jobs and mass exodus of people.
 
@beastmode: I don't disagree with you but it's time people started realizing that there are as many stories like this as there are cities in the world.
 
Here in the USA, we have let things go for so many years, it's catching up to us and starting to realt hurt.
 
It's a catch 22.
Decay and pollution run companies out.
Companies abandon industry and leave the country.
Economic failure occurs.
Situation spirals downward.
The Government is left to clean it up... With taxpayers money
Look at Pasadena. A lot of vacant ground
We can't abandon everything and still maintain an economy.
 
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