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First snake in my garden this year.

First snake in my garden this year.

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by: Chrisinkingwood Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 9:38am  
Getting up the last of the leaves and wet pine straw along my driveway and I disturbed this sleeping little fellow.  At first I figured he is a juvenile copperhead but he doesn't have any markings and their tail tips are usually yellowish.  He is about 5 inches long and 3/8" or so maximum girth. Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice. 4951
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tatertot58 Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 9:42am  
We saw about an 8" to 10" copperhead sitting on the Greenbelt last week.  He was moving kind of slow since it was chilly out.  Dog almost stepped on it.  I HATE snakes, even pictures of them 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 9:45am  
Getting up the last of the leaves and wet pine straw along my driveway and I disturbed this sleeping little fellow.  At first I figured he is a juvenile copperhead but he doesn't have any markings and their tail tips are usually yellowish.  He is about 5 inches long and 3/8" or so maximum girth. Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice.
 
@Chrisinkingwood: That is definitely a non-venomous southern yellow-bellied sidewinding toe nipper.  Just kidding - have no idea what it is but I would keep it around too for insect control.  Just don't let it in the house.
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 9:51am  

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>> Getting up the last of the leaves and wet pine straw along my driveway and I disturbed this sleeping little fellow.  At first I figured he is a juvenile copperhead but he doesn't have any markings and their tail tips are usually yellowish.  He is about 5 inches long and 3/8" or so maximum girth. Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice.
 
@Chrisinkingwood: That is definitely a non-venomous southern yellow-bellied sidewinding toe nipper.  Just kidding - have no idea what it is but I would keep it around too for insect control.  Just don't let it in the house.
 
@buffaloglenn:
I don't know about the nonvenomous part. Do u have a better photo of the head?
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 10:00am  
That snake is a good guy.
 
Per a quick internet seach: Six venomous snakes make their home in the Greater Houston area, the Texas coral snake and five pit vipers - the southern copperhead, western cottonmouth, western pygmy rattlesnake, western diamondback rattlesnake and timber rattlesnake. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 12:00pm  
Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice.
 
@Chrisinkingwood:
It's a Texas Brown snake.  They are definitely keepers and good to have around.  Non-venomous, completely harmless to humans and pets and they eat bugs.  5" is probably still a juvenile, but they only get about 12" at the biggest.  Anyone in Kingwood with a flower bed probably has half a dozen of them around and will never know it.Thank you for not reacting the way some would and kill it.  If the snake is non-venomous you have absolutely zero justifiable reason to kill it.  As I've said before regarding venomous snakes; kill all of the copperheads you want; no you didn't see a cottonmouth unless you were in the swamps around East End; yes I realize that corals have a highly toxic venom but unless you're trying to pick one up you are not at risk and even then it doesn't have fangs so you have to let it gnaw on you; yet to see a rattle snake in the K-hood.  4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 12:29pm  

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>> Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice.
 
@Chrisinkingwood:
It's a Texas Brown snake.  They are definitely keepers and good to have around.  Non-venomous, completely harmless to humans and pets and they eat bugs.  5" is probably still a juvenile, but they only get about 12" at the biggest.  Anyone in Kingwood with a flower bed probably has half a dozen of them around and will never know it.Thank you for not reacting the way some would and kill it.  If the snake is non-venomous you have absolutely zero justifiable reason to kill it.  As I've said before regarding venomous snakes; kill all of the copperheads you want; no you didn't see a cottonmouth unless you were in the swamps around East End; yes I realize that corals have a highly toxic venom but unless you're trying to pick one up you are not at risk and even then it doesn't have fangs so you have to let it gnaw on you; yet to see a rattle snake in the K-hood. 
 
@shodan66: Sure it's not a toe-nipper?  Thanks for id'ing it.  I agree with you on the venomous species.  I've only seen corals and copperheads in Kingwood.  One of the corals was on a greenbelt when I was running so I just ran around it.  Up at our place in Buffalo, I've seen rattlesnakes, copperheads and water mocassins by our creek.  Same deal - I just give them space. 
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 12:40pm  

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>> Any ideas?  I plan to let him go out near the compost bin where I sometimes get mice.
 
@Chrisinkingwood:
It's a Texas Brown snake.  They are definitely keepers and good to have around.  Non-venomous, completely harmless to humans and pets and they eat bugs.  5" is probably still a juvenile, but they only get about 12" at the biggest.  Anyone in Kingwood with a flower bed probably has half a dozen of them around and will never know it.Thank you for not reacting the way some would and kill it.  If the snake is non-venomous you have absolutely zero justifiable reason to kill it.  As I've said before regarding venomous snakes; kill all of the copperheads you want; no you didn't see a cottonmouth unless you were in the swamps around East End; yes I realize that corals have a highly toxic venom but unless you're trying to pick one up you are not at risk and even then it doesn't have fangs so you have to let it gnaw on you; yet to see a rattle snake in the K-hood. 
 
@shodan66: Sure it's not a toe-nipper?  Thanks for id'ing it.  I agree with you on the venomous species.  I've only seen corals and copperheads in Kingwood.  One of the corals was on a greenbelt when I was running so I just ran around it.  Up at our place in Buffalo, I've seen rattlesnakes, copperheads and water mocassins by our creek.  Same deal - I just give them space. 
 
@buffaloglenn:
 
We were in the water at lake Livingston when a baby water moccasin came swimming up to us like it was going to kick some ***. Luckily one of the guys reached down and grabbed it behind its head and flung it onto the shore. The girls all got back into the boat and decided swim time was over because we were sure its siblings were still lurking around out there. That's as close as I ever want to get to those guys! 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 12:59pm  
The only kind of roaches herron won't run from.....
 
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 2:19pm  
Any snake that eats bugs is a good snake. Bats are cool because they eat bugs. Frogs & toads, yep, they are cool, they eat bugs. Love all those birds that eat bugs, including Emoticon 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 2:41pm  
@buffaloglenn:
 
We were in the water at lake Livingston when a baby water moccasin came swimming up to us like it was going to kick some ***.
 
@Maisey1: Wouldn't doubt there are water moccasins up there, but I've only seen diamond back water snakes.  To be fair, I've seen a couple of diamond backs in the Wolf Creek area that were as big as a man's forearm.  Because they are dark and thick like a moccasin, people often get the two confused.  Either way, you'd not catch me grabbing it unless I could positively identify it and I'd have to pin that moccasin down against something sturdy first.  Kudos to the guy for saving the day, but this is by far the #1 way people get bit.
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 2:55pm  

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We were in the water at lake Livingston when a baby water moccasin came swimming up to us like it was going to kick some ***.
 
@Maisey1: Wouldn't doubt there are water moccasins up there, but I've only seen diamond back water snakes.  To be fair, I've seen a couple of diamond backs in the Wolf Creek area that were as big as a man's forearm.  Because they are dark and thick like a moccasin, people often get the two confused.  Either way, you'd not catch me grabbing it unless I could positively identify it and I'd have to pin that moccasin down against something sturdy first.  Kudos to the guy for saving the day, but this is by far the #1 way people get bit.
 
@shodan66: I've seen 2 of those diamondbacks in the marina. They were by far the 2 biggest snakes I have ever come across - at least 6-7 feet long and like you said, as thick as a man's arm. I was dumped off a jet ski in the marina one time and I don't think I have ever moved so fast in my life trying to get out of the water!
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~ 8 years ago   Feb 3, '16 8:46pm  

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We were in the water at lake Livingston when a baby water moccasin came swimming up to us like it was going to kick some ***.
 
@Maisey1: Wouldn't doubt there are water moccasins up there, but I've only seen diamond back water snakes.  To be fair, I've seen a couple of diamond backs in the Wolf Creek area that were as big as a man's forearm.  Because they are dark and thick like a moccasin, people often get the two confused.  Either way, you'd not catch me grabbing it unless I could positively identify it and I'd have to pin that moccasin down against something sturdy first.  Kudos to the guy for saving the day, but this is by far the #1 way people get bit.
 
@shodan66: I've seen 2 of those diamondbacks in the marina. They were by far the 2 biggest snakes I have ever come across - at least 6-7 feet long and like you said, as thick as a man's arm. I was dumped off a jet ski in the marina one time and I don't think I have ever moved so fast in my life trying to get out of the water!
 
@Maisey1:
I know that feeling! I was boogy boarding behind a boat in Florida when I was younger. I got bucked off and while they were circling around to pick me up, someone yelled GATOR! Man, you never saw someone get back on top of a boogy board so fast in the middle of a lake! Don't know how I kept my balance. Lol 4951
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