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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 10:20am  
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 10:25am  
The "racist" thing is more annoying to me than almost any of this crap.. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 10:42am  
The "racist" thing is more annoying to me than almost any of this crap..
 
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Yep we are all human and should treat each other as we would like to be treated.
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 10:47am  

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Yep we are all human and should treat each other as we would like to be treated.
 
@beadweaver: yes, but that's not what I meant. I mean people calling others racist because of their feelings about Muslims...Muslim isn't a race, so it's not possible to be racist.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 10:52am  
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Ebola Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 11:09am  
Since when is anti muslim racist? 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 12:41pm  
Meanwhile, in the real world, Muslims shrieking "Allah is God" are shooting, bombing, killing people.Some Muslims from Trump's childhood neighborhood invited Trump to talk to them.  "They aren't terrorists," they said.  Trump didn't claim all Muslims are terrorists.  He said there are Muslim terrorists among groups of Syrian refugees.We know not all Muslims are terrorists.  That doesn't mean there aren't Muslim terrorists. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 1:46pm  
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 2:19pm  

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@BooBear:
 
Yep we are all human and should treat each other as we would like to be treated.
 
@beadweaver: yes, but that's not what I meant. I mean people calling others racist because of their feelings about Muslims...Muslim isn't a race, so it's not possible to be racist.
 
 
@BooBear: Yes but generally speaking if you call the people who deserve to be branded with something "bigoted and xenophobic" you then have to explain to them what it means, not to mention the fact that you can bet nine times out of ten if they see any middle eastern or south Asian person or someone with a similar appearance they are likely to assume muslim and terrorist even if you are dealing with a sikh, hindu or christian, this would definitely qualify as racism. My wife is part hispanic part cherokee and was refused employment shortly after 9/11 because she looked "too muslim" go ahead and tell me that isn't racist.
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 2:23pm  

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@BooBear:
 
Yep we are all human and should treat each other as we would like to be treated.
 
@beadweaver: yes, but that's not what I meant. I mean people calling others racist because of their feelings about Muslims...Muslim isn't a race, so it's not possible to be racist.
 

@BooBear: Yes but generally speaking if you call the people who deserve to be branded with something "bigoted and xenophobic" you then have to explain to them what it means, not to mention the fact that you can bet nine times out of ten if they see any middle eastern or south Asian person or someone with a similar appearance they are likely to assume muslim and terrorist even if you are dealing with a sikh, hindu or christian, this would definitely qualify as racism. My wife is part hispanic part cherokee and was refused employment shortly after 9/11 because she looked "too muslim" go ahead and tell me that isn't racist.
 
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I want proof your wife was refused employment on those basis or its a lie. I called in on a job and the guy on the phone asked if i was latino. You need to speak English and Spanish for thees job. 4951
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 2:28pm  
It's not racist and further more, I don't believe it. Not that there are not idiots but most HR or people doing the hiring have just enough sense to avoid saying something like that. If they truly did, you should have sued and should own the company. I think you have shown a history and tendency to being a "victim" and more likely decided that was why she didn't get hired your self. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 3:35pm  
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I want proof your wife was refused employment on those basis or its a lie. I called in on a job and the guy on the phone asked if i was latino. You need to speak English and Spanish for thees job.
 
@Ebola: What has speaking spanish got to do with anything I said?@BooBear: It most certainly not a lie, it was an apartment leasing job, my wife has told me the story several times and has no reason to lie to me about it. In point of fact I didn't even meet my wife until 5 or 6 years AFTER this occurrence so I wasn't in a position to determine the reason for anything, I am simply relaying what my wife was told at the time. I was still living in England completely oblivious to my wife's existence at the time. Of course why would I expect anyone to get their facts straight before leaping to conclusions, after all that is the reason you are painting me as a victim and liar. 
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 3:41pm  

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I want proof your wife was refused employment on those basis or its a lie. I called in on a job and the guy on the phone asked if i was latino. You need to speak English and Spanish for thees job.
 
@Ebola: What has speaking spanish got to do with anything I said?@BooBear: It most certainly not a lie, it was an apartment leasing job, my wife has told me the story several times and has no reason to lie to me about it. In point of fact I didn't even meet my wife until 5 or 6 years AFTER this occurrence so I wasn't in a position to determine the reason for anything, I am simply relaying what my wife was told at the time. I was still living in England completely oblivious to my wife's existence at the time. Of course why would I expect anyone to get their facts straight before leaping to conclusions, after all that is the reason you are painting me as a victim and liar.�
 
@CartmanUK35: I still believe it didn't happen that way. I could be wrong, she could be making an excuse as to why she didn't get the job...it was before you knew her and I don't at all so who knows. My opinion is just that, my opinion based on my completely nonpersonal opinion of the things you post that have left me with that impression. Again, I could be wrong.
 
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CartmanUK35 Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 3:55pm  
Except she doesn't have to make excuses for why she didn't get the job as I am not and would not be judging her in any way. Using logic alone what you say makes little sense given the situation and you are indeed wrong.The point remains that just because it is semantically wrong to call prejudice against Muslims "racism" it doesn't mean that there is not an element of racism involved, and I think calling people on semantics, when the broader point is that the person the comment is directed at is guilty of vile prejudice of one kind or another, is petty to say the least.So if people started lynching Muslims for being Muslim, or worse, lynching brown people for LOOKING Muslim it would be just fine because it isn't racist?I come from a country which has a much better handle on race relations and integration than the US and ESPECIALLY the south, so believe me when I say, from an outside perspective, the US is on the whole prejudiced as hell. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 4:03pm  
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BooBear Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Dec 10, '15 4:26pm  
From an inside perspective I agree the US is prejudiced as hell, and actually, the word prejudice would be accurate, its still not racism.
 
ETA the whole lynching thing was ridiculous and not worthy of serious comment. 4951
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