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by: RogueHippEE Active Indicator LED Icon 8 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 7:16am  
No Syrian or Iraqi refugees can enter until a tougher screening policy can be put in place.It wasn't even a close vote. 4951
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allymansfield Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 7:19am  
Can (will) he veto it though?  Or just make and executive order? 4951
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friday1 Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 7:20am  
I am sure people on here will make fun of this and call people doing this evil names. We cant keep our neighbors to the south out. How do we keep people out that really want to do harm? 4951
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MarT Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 7:33am  
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You're right, our porous borders put at great risk to those that want to harm us. I guess we won't be bringing them through the front door if they override the President's almost certain veto. 4951
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Fallon Active Indicator LED Icon 18
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 7:34am  
Removed By Request 4951
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Chrisinkingwood Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 8:24am  
The only reason we can't keep the boarder secure is because we have leadership that doesn't see this as an issue. No other country has open boarders. And it is insane to think we should.
 
@Fallon: Well you can call it what you like but by definition the USA has a controlled border and NOT an open border. An open border has no restrictions on movement of any kind. The USA/Mexico border is the most frequently crossed controlled international boundary in the world, with an estimated 350 million legal crossings being made annually. Do we have people who enter illegally by crossing our border? Most certainly but that does not define an "open border".  And technically the EU countries within the Schengen agreement as well as the UK and Ireland have what is known as a "conditional open border"  This along with a single currency were one of the biggest goals of the EU. The Agreement provided for harmonisation of visa policies, allowing
residents in border areas freedom to cross borders away from fixed
checkpoints and the replacement of passport checks with visual
surveillance of vehicles at reduced speed and vehicle checks that
allowed vehicles to cross borders without stopping. 4951
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Chrisinkingwood Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 8:25am  
Can (will) he veto it though?  Or just make and executive order?
 
@allymansfield: Yes the POTUS always has veto power and he has stated he will veto this IF it gets through the Senate. It could become law in the event of an override but that outcome is unknown at this point.
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CBP210 Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 8:29am  
Again he is working against the wishes of the people. 4951
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 10:18am  

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@allymansfield: Yes the POTUS always has veto power and he has stated he will veto this IF it gets through the Senate. It could become law in the event of an override but that outcome is unknown at this point.
 
@Chrisinkingwood:  True, but Congress can override the veto or executive order if they have enough votes.  Sounds like the House already has over-riden him.  If the Senate does, Obama is SOL.Edited:  Over-riding a veto or executive order requires a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate.  The law the House passed was 289 for vs 139 against.  If Obama vetoes and the votes remain the same, the House can over-ride the veto.  Now it's up to the Senate.
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beadweaver Active Indicator LED Icon 8
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 10:31am  
I have very mixed emotions over all.
We don't have to go far to find radical groups right here in our own city. Our own country.
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How do you say come when so many of our own vets, citizens, children don't have basic needs.
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Our very own great great great ancestors came here fleeing something in their own homelands.
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What would Jesus do?
Not many Christians are asking themselves that.
The hateful speech going around for other human beings disgusts me.
By the grace of God there go I. 4951
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fcabanski Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 12:50pm  
The bill merely requires a sign off from heads of various departments for each individual refugee:  that he or she isn't a terrorist.That will be a rubber stamp.The bill doesn't require any more detailed background checks. 4951
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 5:10pm  
The bill merely requires a sign off from heads of various departments for each individual refugee:  that he or she isn't a terrorist.That will be a rubber stamp.The bill doesn't require any more detailed background checks.
 
@fcabanski:  Sadly, the bill is just more posturing to show the voters that they did SOMETHING, but in reality aren't doing anything substantial.  That's what Congress has become.
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~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 5:32pm  

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@allymansfield: Yes the POTUS always has veto power and he has stated he will veto this IF it gets through the Senate. It could become law in the event of an override but that outcome is unknown at this point.
 
@Chrisinkingwood: �True, but Congress can override the veto or executive order if they have enough votes. �Sounds like the House already has over-riden him. �If the Senate does, Obama is SOL.Edited: �Over-riding a veto or executive order requires a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate. �The law the House passed was 289 for vs 139 against. �If Obama vetoes and the votes remain the same, the House can over-ride the veto. �Now it's up to the Senate.
 
@Retired_Engineer: or an executive order can be over ridden by funding or lack thereof since congress controls the purse.
 
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~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 5:53pm  

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@allymansfield: Yes the POTUS always has veto power and he has stated he will veto this IF it gets through the Senate. It could become law in the event of an override but that outcome is unknown at this point.
 
@Chrisinkingwood: �True, but Congress can override the veto or executive order if they have enough votes. �Sounds like the House already has over-riden him. �If the Senate does, Obama is SOL.Edited: �Over-riding a veto or executive order requires a 2/3 vote in both the House and Senate. �The law the House passed was 289 for vs 139 against. �If Obama vetoes and the votes remain the same, the House can over-ride the veto. �Now it's up to the Senate.
 
@Retired_Engineer: or an executive order can be over ridden by funding or lack thereof since congress controls the purse.
 
 
@BooBear:
 
Sorry guys. I misunderstood the original posting. I thought it was passed then vetoes then was at the next step. Didn't realize we were still at step one! "I'm just a bill on Capitol Hill" sing it with me! 🎶
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Retired_Engineer Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 5:56pm  
"I'm just a bill on Capitol Hill" sing it with me! 🎶
 
@allymansfield:  I love that cartoon!  I think I remember most of the words.
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TXtransplant Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 8 years ago   Nov 20, '15 11:56pm  
Nice to see some sort of action. I hope they stay the course. 4951
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