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by: Chuxtaposed Active Indicator LED Icon  OP  New Member
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 12:00pm  
Just a heads up folks, if you currently use Suddenlink as your internet provider and you use any streaming sites, you may get fined. As of April 14th, if you go over your plan's gigabyte allowance you will be charged a $30 fee. Furthermore, Suddenlink's customer service people are asking specifically if we used any streaming sites like Youtube, Amazon or Netflix. Our bill has doubled since we moved here 2 years ago and this is a direct result of Net Neutrality! https://www.facebook.com/notes/948120148562270/ 4951
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KellyG Active Indicator LED Icon 3
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 12:12pm  
That has nothing to do with Net Neutrality. Suddenlink, in addition to nearly ALL ISPs, charge extra for overages. If you search the web for stories on overage charges, especially by Comcast, you will see that this has been going on since the beginning. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 2:39pm  
Net Neutrality, the Government is not that quick to raise rates, they just passed it but it's coming. It will be another fine example of our tax dollars at work I assure you.   4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 2:50pm  
Uh......this is actually the exact kind of thing that Net Neutrality is aimed at stopping. If you're constantly paying overage fees specifically for using streaming sites, you should be FOR Net Neutrality.  4951
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Chuxtaposed Active Indicator LED Icon  OP  New Member
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 2:52pm  
That's funny because the customer service rep told us it's part of the Net Neutrality act. 4951
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Chuxtaposed Active Indicator LED Icon  OP  New Member
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 2:56pm  
Net Neutrality was initially meant to stop government intervention. But, it's been completely perverted by the FCC. Read the link I attached to my initial post. Net Neutrality is not what you think it is!   4951
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Chuxtaposed Active Indicator LED Icon  OP  New Member
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 2:58pm  
Wow, you've really drank the kool-aid, haven't you? Name me one thing that's government regulated that's gotten better! 4951
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beastmode Active Indicator LED Icon 12
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 3:02pm  
Uh......this is actually the exact kind of thing that Net Neutrality is aimed at stopping. If you're constantly paying overage fees specifically for using streaming sites, you should be FOR Net Neutrality. 
 
@imadrummer2k: The Government is providing a service. Services costs money. They get the money from taxpayers. Rates will go up. Again, this just passed, I doubt they have gone up already. It takes a while to create the official legislation. It may take years but it will happen.   
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KellyG Active Indicator LED Icon 3
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 3:36pm  
That's funny because the customer service rep told us it's part of the Net Neutrality act.
 
@Chuxtaposed:
 
Your Rep lied to you Emoticon 4951
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ProblemAgain Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 4:49pm  
That's funny because the customer service rep told us it's part of the Net Neutrality act.
 
@Chuxtaposed: oh come on now.....they just found something to point to as a source of blame instead of blaming them for raising fees.there was even one provider who charged a nickel a mg over customer's limit and that was quite a while ago.  blaming the fees on net neutrlity is like blaming the new girl in the office, the checks in the mail and they've never done this before.
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 4:54pm  
@ProblemAgain:  Maybe it is the new girl's fault.  She doesn't know much and could be messing things up as she learns by trial and error. 4951
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Odin Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 4:58pm  
Since cable and high speed internet is essentially a monopoly here, arguments against gov regulation make little sense.
 
If there was true competition I'd be against any law that impinges on how they do business. If it was a truly competitive environment there would be no need for a law in the first place. Wouldn't you always choose a provider that didn't limit how many times you could download? 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 5:11pm  
Furthermore, Suddenlink's customer service people are asking specifically if we used any streaming sites like Youtube, Amazon or Netflix.
 
@Chuxtaposed: Your ISP rate-limiting these sort of sites is EXACTLY why we need Net Neutrality.  The term itself was coined when ISPs started limiting based on types of service, apps, etc.  The entire effort is to keep ISPs from throttling your traffic like Comcast did to p2p and ftp streams back in 2007.  Net Neutrality means that your ISP has to treat ALL of your IP traffic equally without regard to port or protocol above layer 3 of the OSI model.
Suddenlink's customer service is just regurgitating the lies their management are telling them.  They are blaming a regulation that governs how they cannot be turds to their customers instead of owning their own greed for charging you more for their services.Source:  Pay my bills as a senior network architect/design engineer for an international company.  Formerly DoD Network Security Manager with a couple of decades of experience. 4951
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Odin Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 5:28pm  
@ProblemAgain:  Maybe it is the new girl's fault.  She doesn't know much and could be messing things up as she learns by trial and error.
 
@donnatella:
 
Maybe or could be a devious plan to appear like she doesn't know much.
 
Let's give her a chance anyway. May just need a little training. (Aka 50 shades of training) 4951
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Chuxtaposed Active Indicator LED Icon  OP  New Member
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 6:40pm  
OK, people...fine! Continue to be willfully ignorant and bury your heads in the sand. But, when **** goes sideways...and it will...remember our little convo here! I will no longer read or respond to this thread. Peace, out! 4951
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shodan66 Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 8 years ago   Apr 20, '15 6:52pm  
Continue to be willfully ignorant and bury your heads in the sand
 
@Chuxtaposed: Continue to b̶e̶ ̶w̶i̶l̶l̶f̶u̶l̶l̶y̶ ̶i̶g̶n̶o̶r̶a̶n̶t̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶b̶u̶r̶y̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶h̶e̶a̶d̶s̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶s̶a̶n̶d̶ educate yourself with facts and understand the long-term implications of not having net neutrality instead of just believing the propaganda at face value.  Also, continue to engage in good healthy dialog with your neighbors and peers so that the talking heads at "choose your flavor" network don't spin you into believing the first thing you hear or read.  Do this with an open mind and be as ready to learn as you are to educate.  Lastly, remember to always, always, always follow the money as we gave up capitalism for corporatism long ago.FTFY. 4951
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