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by: HollyHobby Active Indicator LED Icon 9 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 12:42pm  
I was reading this article today:  www.msn.com/en-us/ne ws/us/the-lost-child ren-of-katrina/ar-AA alGD5After Katrina, were there any negative effects here in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita areas due to the refugees? Part of my work is writing about emergency preparedness and I've only ever heard negative stories about the mostly-NOLA area folks coming here as refugees. 4951
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CBP210 Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 12:50pm  
I was reading this article today:  www.msn.com/en-us/ne ws/us/the-lost-child ren-of-katrina/ar-AA alGD5After Katrina, were there any negative effects here in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita areas due to the refugees? Part of my work is writing about emergency preparedness and I've only ever heard negative stories about the mostly-NOLA area folks coming here as refugees.
 
@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 1:11pm  
I know some wonderful people who were relocated by Katrina-they are some of the best people in the world.  4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 1:33pm  
Talk to school aged people.  There was and still is a lot of talk about increased number of fights and violent incidents in schools. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 2:23pm  
I seem to remember that the City of Houston was keeping separate crime statistics at one point on those crimes committed by Katrina evacuees and the locals... Problems in some of the schools was also a definite problem... But, that's not to say, all evacuees were bad. Take Javaman in Atascocita for example. Definitely an asset! 4951
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HollyHobby Active Indicator LED Icon 9 OP 
~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 3:37pm  
Now that you mention it, we took an amazing sushi class in Houston from a Katrina refugee. Awesome guy. He and his wife drove into Houston without a home and just their belongings and he had the vision for creating a sushi club. His class was awesome and his endeavor has become amazingly successful.http://www.houston-sushi.com/classes.html 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 3:44pm  
I didn't see much affect here in Kingwood, but my hometown changed.  FEMA installed a huge trailer park just outside Baker, LA for Katrina refugees. Baker is just north of Baton Rouge.  The vast majority of those refugees were from the poorest black neighborhoods of the New Orlean's area.  Most of them stayed in Baker after they had to move out of the trailers.  While there were some very nice and hard working people among them, the majority were inner-city and not the best class of citizens (white or black).  My father was fortunate to have two great couples buy adjacent to him.  However, most of Baker suffered much higher crime.  One of dad's new neighbors had a grown son that was addicted to drugs.  His father initially let his son live with him, but his son started stealing from him.  The man locked his son out of the house, but let him put a small trailer on his property.  His son still stole from his father and from neighbors.  His father then chased him off the property but he would still come around when his father wasn't home.  My father had to keep everything locked away.  The other couple used to bring my dad plates of food. He didn't need the food, but it was what great neighbors do.  They also brought my dad some fresh strawberries the evening he died.  My dad LOVED strawberries.  Nobody knew it was going to be his last meal.  That neighbor was also a pall-bearer for my father.Because of the much higher crime rate, many people that lived in Baker sold out and moved to the smaller town of Zachary, just north of Baker.  I used to enjoy driving around Baker when I visited my family, but the town was deteriorating so much that I stopped those drives.I have met some terrific people that were Katrina "escapees" both here in Houston and in Baker.  The color of their skin makes no difference.  The fact that FEMA took so many of the poorest people and concentrated them in Baker caused the decline of Baker. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 3:45pm  
let the data drive the conclusions...when you start with a conclusion ( a faulty hypothesis) and look for data to support it, that is poor science 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 4:47pm  

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>> I was reading this article today:  www.msn.com/en-us/ne ws/us/the-lost-child ren-of-katrina/ar-AA alGD5After Katrina, were there any negative effects here in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita areas due to the refugees? Part of my work is writing about emergency preparedness and I've only ever heard negative stories about the mostly-NOLA area folks coming here as refugees.
 
@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
 
@CBP210:
That area was getting bad before Katrina. When I was house shopping back in 2008 there were pit bulls loose sitting on peoples porches and dog chained up in back yards. Found a house I really liked but didn't put an offer on because of the loose dogs and bad vibe I got. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 4:56pm  

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>> I was reading this article today:  www.msn.com/en-us/ne ws/us/the-lost-child ren-of-katrina/ar-AA alGD5After Katrina, were there any negative effects here in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita areas due to the refugees? Part of my work is writing about emergency preparedness and I've only ever heard negative stories about the mostly-NOLA area folks coming here as refugees.
 
@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
 
@CBP210:
That area was getting bad before Katrina. When I was house shopping back in 2008 there were pit bulls loose sitting on peoples porches and dog chained up in back yards. Found a house I really liked but didn't put an offer on because of the loose dogs and bad vibe I got.
 
@foxymama:
 
I agree that neighborhood was getting bad long before Katrina.
 
To the OP, there are plenty outstanding citizens that are here due to being evacuated during Katrina. One of my best friend is one of them. She hates the term 'Katrina evacuee' since it is associated with such negative connotation. During your research, don't forget about the good that got jumbled in with the bad. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 4:57pm  
I think it's also worth mentioning that many churches in the Houston area opened their doors and let refugees live there until they could find other accommodations.  However, the largest church (and probably the wealthiest) in Houston, Olsteen's Lakewood Church, DID NOT.  @foxymama:  Katrina happened in 2005, 3 years before you were house shopping. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 6:16pm  
I think it's also worth mentioning that many churches in the Houston area opened their doors and let refugees live there until they could find other accommodations.  However, the largest church (and probably the wealthiest) in Houston, Olsteen's Lakewood Church, DID NOT.  @foxymama:  Katrina happened in 2005, 3 years before you were house shopping.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
Oops, I was thinking about Ike. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 6:19pm  

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>> I was reading this article today:  www.msn.com/en-us/ne ws/us/the-lost-child ren-of-katrina/ar-AA alGD5After Katrina, were there any negative effects here in Kingwood/Humble/Atascocita areas due to the refugees? Part of my work is writing about emergency preparedness and I've only ever heard negative stories about the mostly-NOLA area folks coming here as refugees.
 
@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
 
@CBP210:
That area was getting bad before Katrina. When I was house shopping back in 2008 there were pit bulls loose sitting on peoples porches and dog chained up in back yards. Found a house I really liked but didn't put an offer on because of the loose dogs and bad vibe I got.
 
@foxymama:
 
I agree that neighborhood was getting bad long before Katrina.
 
To the OP, there are plenty outstanding citizens that are here due to being evacuated during Katrina. One of my best friend is one of them. She hates the term 'Katrina evacuee' since it is associated with such negative connotation. During your research, don't forget about the good that got jumbled in with the bad.
 
@Francita:
I agree, the bad just makes the news more. I have a friend who moved here after Katrina. She is a nurse who supports herself, pays her taxes and is a good citizen. She did take advantage of the no interest or low interest home financing rates the government gave the evacuees. But I can't blame her, I would of done the same. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 6:22pm  

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@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
 
@CBP210:
That area was getting bad before Katrina. When I was house shopping back in 2008 there were pit bulls loose sitting on peoples porches and dog chained up in back yards. Found a house I really liked but didn't put an offer on because of the loose dogs and bad vibe I got.
 
@foxymama:
 
I agree that neighborhood was getting bad long before Katrina.
 
To the OP, there are plenty outstanding citizens that are here due to being evacuated during Katrina. One of my best friend is one of them. She hates the term 'Katrina evacuee' since it is associated with such negative connotation. During your research, don't forget about the good that got jumbled in with the bad. 4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 7:25pm  

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@HollyHobby: Not so much Kingwood but yes for Atascocita and Humble especially the Kenswick area. I had co workers tell me when they first moved to the new subdivision near Kenswick it was nice and they would see people walking poodles and small dogs but after Katrina a lot of them came over and started leasing in those neighborhoods and thus the small dogs were gone and were replaced by loose pitbulls and gun shots being heard at night.
 
@CBP210:
That area was getting bad before Katrina. When I was house shopping back in 2008 there were pit bulls loose sitting on peoples porches and dog chained up in back yards. Found a house I really liked but didn't put an offer on because of the loose dogs and bad vibe I got.
 
@foxymama:  I know the bad vibe you got. It was the same when I go house shopping and I venture into an area which is a turn off. During the early 90's when I left my parents I did live in a ghetto East Palo Alto, CA which at one point was murder capital of the U.S. and it was the only black hole in my history. I can tell when a neighborhood is going in the direction of ghetto material or just plain bad. The area in question was great when I moved to Texas in 2003 and two of my good friends bought houses in those neighborhoods. I almost did put a bid but luckily another friend told me to buy in Atascocita which I did. I am glad I made that choice.
4951
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~ 8 years ago   Apr 5, '15 9:49pm  
I didn't notice anything negative in the area that I associated with Katrina - other than some observations by locals that I thought reflected poorly on them. For example, people would discuss a reported increase in certain crimes as being a reflection of the type of people that moved here. They would say things like, "the crime rate has gone up" while talking about people from New Orleans that moved here, without even citing rates. They would cite crimes reported in the media, often by ignorant journalists hired for their writing skills rather than their thinking skills.The truth is there was a temporary increase in some crimes (just like in any other year), yet the overall crime rates actually went down. Violent crimes peaked two months before Katrina. In other words, the addition of 240,000+ people that committed crimes at lower rates than the people that were already here, helped make Houston a safer place.For me, hearing people misrepresenting anecdotal data to support inaccurate conclusions about a certain segment about the population helped me identify ignorant bigots among us.  4951
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