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by: FoFa Active Indicator LED Icon 17 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 8:03am  
Well Said 4951
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thegoodwife Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 8:11am  
So all the Nuns that taught me for 12 years weren't totally clueless, who would've known! 4951
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jax Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 8:16am  
She's making the assumption that "pro-life" supporters or anti-abortion fighters are only interested in the birth of a child.
 
Way to go, Sister. Way to make a generalization...and an idiotic one at that. I have never in my 40+ years met anyone who has EVER said, let the baby live so we can just kill it.
 
BRILLIANT!
 
Then again, maybe I just misunderstood hher intentions here.
 
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 9:19am  
I agree with her basic premise, but I am against using tax dollars from working people to feed, house, and clothe children of people who live off of taxpayers and continue to have multiple children.  If you can't take care of a child, don't get pregnant.  Condoms are inexpensive and easy to get. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 10:15am  
I am all for helping those in need who are struggling to feed and clothe their children.
 
I am opposed to shoveling heaps of handouts to crack head "parents" who abuse the system and buy more drugs, cigarettes, and beer while they get knocked up over and over again because they use their children for more cold, hard, cash.
 
I wish we would pull abortion funding and put that money toward the foster care system. And stupid meth heads should have their genitals revoked. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:00am  
. And stupid meth heads should have their genitals revoked.
 
@SerenityNow:  Harsh but in the right direction!   Women on welfare for more than a year should get birth control implants.  Men who don't support their children should be given a vasectomy.  Failure to do so would result in a loss of government aid.If a person gets a job and gets off of welfare, both procedures could be removed.
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Humbletexan1 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:15am  
Welfare should have a 1 year cap.  I work to support MY family.  YOU work to support yours. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:20am  
What a false premise.  Being pro life is anti kill the baby.  Period.That government is the only help for people is ridiculous. 4951
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elguapo Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:49am  
I went to an all catholic school in my young years, the nuns were brutal in my class room and complete as☆holes.
 
with this nuns mentality, all nuns must be as☆holes too. 4951
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Mahm Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:51am  

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>> . And stupid meth heads should have their genitals revoked.
 
@SerenityNow:  Harsh but in the right direction!   Women on welfare for more than a year should get birth control implants.  Men who don't support their children should be given a vasectomy.  Failure to do so would result in a loss of government aid.If a person gets a job and gets off of welfare, both procedures could be removed.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
That looks good on paper, but many women have adverse reactions to those implants. It can cause a hormonal imbalance so severe, that the woman can become a real danger to her children. I would rather have one more baby born into poverty than a few more drowned in a bathtub.
 
Bottom line is that medical procedures being forced on any individual is unconstitutional. Free BC pills and other methods are already "offered" to women on welfare. This includes having tubes tied after delivery. Hoping they utilize the resource is really the most we can do. That said, the vasectomies are an excellent idea. They are much safer than tubaligations, and probably cheaper. But there are currently no such benefits offered to low income men. I bet many men would do it, not wanting to be caught up in paying child support that they can't afford. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 11:59am  
I went to an all catholic school in my young years, the nuns were brutal in my class room and complete as☆holes.
 
with this nuns mentality, all nuns must be as☆holes too.
 
@elguapo:
 
I went to Catholic schools myself and I never took time out of my life to form opinions of nuns. They were our teachers and 1 was our principal. She was great. I loved having her as a principal. She was mean but loved us all and was always there for us when we needed. God rest her soul.
 
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CowboyEngineer Active Indicator LED Icon  New Member
~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 12:23pm  
Liberals always say they want a conversation when what they really want to do is condem and hector. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 12:25pm  

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>> I went to an all catholic school in my young years, the nuns were brutal in my class room and complete as☆holes.
 
with this nuns mentality, all nuns must be as☆holes too.
 
@elguapo:
 
I went to Catholic schools myself and I never took time out of my life to form opinions of nuns. They were our teachers and 1 was our principal. She was great. I loved having her as a principal. She was mean but loved us all and was always there for us when we needed. God rest her soul.
 
 
@jax:
 
The one nun I had, well, she used to lock me in a small closet for hours, it gave me plenty of time to form an opinion about that one nun. Not all nuns in the school were that way. But that one nun makes it hard to remember the great loving nuns that were in the school.
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 1:40pm  

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@SerenityNow:  Harsh but in the right direction!   Women on welfare for more than a year should get birth control implants.  Men who don't support their children should be given a vasectomy.  Failure to do so would result in a loss of government aid.If a person gets a job and gets off of welfare, both procedures could be removed.
 
@Retired_Engineer:
 
That looks good on paper, but many women have adverse reactions to those implants. It can cause a hormonal imbalance so severe, that the woman can become a real danger to her children. I would rather have one more baby born into poverty than a few more drowned in a bathtub.
 
Bottom line is that medical procedures being forced on any individual is unconstitutional. Free BC pills and other methods are already "offered" to women on welfare. This includes having tubes tied after delivery. Hoping they utilize the resource is really the most we can do. That said, the vasectomies are an excellent idea. They are much safer than tubaligations, and probably cheaper. But there are currently no such benefits offered to low income men. I bet many men would do it, not wanting to be caught up in paying child support that they can't afford.
 
@Mahm:  Yeah, I was just tossing out ideas.  I know those ideas wouldn't fly, but if it could, it would make a big difference!We offer the poor services like free condoms, birth control pills, and to get their tubes tied, but then we turn around and REWARD them for NOT doing these things by giving them more welfare money/benefits when they have another child.   I think that once a woman/man signs up for welfare, they should NOT get any more funds if she subsequently has more children. Take away the reward for behaving badly and encourage them to use the birth-control services provided.  I also like the limit of one year for welfare.  I would like to see it like unemployment benefits.  You have to work to deserve a welfare credit.  That credit only provides benefits for one year and then welfare stops.  You can re-qualify for welfare again after you work for 5 years.Now, for the men.  If they are not providing for their children, then they get a vasectomy and, if they don't have a job, they can work for the local/state government picking up trash, or cutting grass, etc. at minimum wage to at least provide some child care money.And last, but not least, welfare benefits should not exceed the equivalent of minimum wage.  Several states are encouraging people to stay on welfare because it pays better than a minimum wage job.
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 1:54pm  
Liberals always say they want a conversation when what they really want to do is condem and hector.
 
@CowboyEngineer: that had NOTHING to do with the subject but was a bumpersticker pavlovian response....
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~ 9 years ago   Feb 14, '15 4:01pm  

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>> Liberals always say they want a conversation when what they really want to do is condem and hector.
 
@CowboyEngineer: that had NOTHING to do with the subject but was a bumpersticker pavlovian response....
 
@ProblemAgain:
 
The good sister announces that pro-lifers are deeply lacking in morality and are willing to allow children to starve, go uneducated and homeless. Sounds like condemnation and hectoring to me. Fortunately for us Pavlovian responders she graciously allows us to have a much broader conversation with our betters. My comments sound spot on to me. Yours, however, sound like a child who needs a nap.
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