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by: notfromhere Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 2:11pm  
The lnik between MMR and autism has been debunked for a while. The idiot who wrote the findings admitted he lied. Measels were gone. Now they are back, thanks to the anti-vaxxers and their propaganda. http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-an-updated-map-20141023-column.html 4951
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ET Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 2:11pm  
I got mine, but that was a very long time ago.  4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 2:13pm  
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notfromhere Active Indicator LED Icon 12 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 2:43pm  
With the amount of people who are coming into our country illegally, from countries without the standards we have for vaccinations, we are going to be seeing this more and more.  Polio is making a comeback.  Wth is wrong with people?  Vaccinate your children.
 
@Fallon: Actually that is not true. Cases of these diseases in many countries with a lot less means have lower rates of infection. Believe it or not, many third world countries (with the exception of African countries) have real mandatory vaccinations, so people can't refuse to vaccinate their children. Look at the maps in Latin America (where most illegal immigrant come from). The need for vaccinations in some countries is actually higher than in the US. For example, the vaccine against TB and Hep-A is mandatory in some countries. That's not the case here. This is one thing we can't blame on illegal immigration. There is a larger impact from "educated by the internet" people who refuse to vaccinate because Jenni McCarthy blames her autistic son on bad science. 
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BusyMommy Active Indicator LED Icon
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 4:54pm  
I wonder if she thinks her breast implants could be a factor? 4951
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MarT Active Indicator LED Icon 9
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 5:17pm  
The only vaccine I delayed was chicken pox with my two youngest, the vaccine was pretty new. Then our pediatrician scared me into it. Plus since all the kids were getting vaccinated they were unlikely to get the chicken pox and have life long immunity. 4951
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 5:21pm  
The lnik between MMR and autism has been debunked for a while. The idiot who wrote the findings admitted he lied. Measels were gone. Now they are back, thanks to the anti-vaxxers and their propaganda. 

 
 
@notfromhere: Vaccinate yourself and your kids and let those who want to opt out deal with the illness.
 
No sympathy and no public aid to treat them for that illness for those who refuse vaccinations.  If you want to be part of the problem, then finance that portion of your healthcare yourself.    Personal choice also means learning to live with the consequences of their actions.
 
Yes it is a personal choice, and they are within their rights to make that choice, but by opting out, they are helping to bring back illness that had been eradicated until this "no vaccine" movement. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 5:32pm  
I agree with Donnatella.  Do what you think is best for you and your family and leave everyone else alone to deal with their decisions.  Hypothetically, if you have vaccinated your kids, you have nothing to worry about.  And just because someone is not vaccinated does not mean they are to blame for everything.  Both vaccinated and unvaccinated people can spread disease.  And not everyone who opts out does it because they listened to some dumb celebrity.  Some people have religious reasons, health reasons, allergies, etc.  Be careful how quickly you judge others, lest they judge you in return! 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 5:38pm  

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>> The lnik between MMR and autism has been debunked for a while. The idiot who wrote the findings admitted he lied. Measels were gone. Now they are back, thanks to the anti-vaxxers and their propaganda. 
 
 
 
@notfromhere: Vaccinate yourself and your kids and let those who want to opt out deal with the illness.
 
No sympathy and no public aid to treat them for that illnes sfor those who refuse vaccinations.  If you want to be part of the problem, then finance that portion of your healthcare yourself.    Personal choice also means learning to live with the consequences of their actions.
 
Yes it is a personal choice, and they are within their rights to make that choice, but by opting out, they are helping to bring back illness that had been eradicated until this "no vaccine" movement.
 
@donnatella:  I think you're right Donnatella, I'm inclined to agree wholeheartedly because we all make choices and we should have to be responsible for the outcome of those choices. However in many cases there are children that had the misfortune of being born to parents that can't seem to make a decent choice. In too many cases it's the children that pay the price for adult stupidity. Should we make those children live with the consequences of their parents actions? I do understand what you're saying but it's another one of those things that there just isn't any good answer.
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 5:53pm  

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@notfromhere: Vaccinate yourself and your kids and let those who want to opt out deal with the illness.
 
No sympathy and no public aid to treat them for that illnes sfor those who refuse vaccinations.  If you want to be part of the problem, then finance that portion of your healthcare yourself.    Personal choice also means learning to live with the consequences of their actions.
 
Yes it is a personal choice, and they are within their rights to make that choice, but by opting out, they are helping to bring back illness that had been eradicated until this "no vaccine" movement.
 
@donnatella:  I think you're right Donnatella, I'm inclined to agree wholeheartedly because we all make choices and we should have to be responsible for the outcome of those choices. However in many cases there are children that had the misfortune of being born to parents that can't seem to make a decent choice. In too many cases it's the children that pay the price for adult stupidity. Should we make those children live with the consequences of their parents actions? I do understand what you're saying but it's another one of those things that there just isn't any good answer.
@BlissfullyRetired: Make those parents financially responsible...end of story. 
 
It's the "what about the poor children" cry-baby scenarios that have allowed our country's "welfare" system to run amuck. This "what about the poor children" allows people to live generation after generation on their *** in front of the TV and be the "DON'Ts and WON'Ts" of this world, so the country can live with the fact that they are "taking care of the poor children."  That's BULL****!!!!!!! 
 
This is simply coddling laziness.   If you are going to crack down on irresponsible behavior, then do it.  That goes for lazy welfare queens and that also goes for everyone who refuses vaccines.  Un-vaccinated people are what allows outbreaks to thrive. 
 
There are tons of "what ifs" and "exceptions" to every scenario if you sit there and think about them. This country needs to grow a pair and fix these issues of coddling and make people personally responsible for their own actions. If you don't work, you don't eat.  If you don't protect your family with vaccines, you take the risk of major illness or worse. 
 
You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem.  4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 6:22pm  
 I have never been accused of being a bleeding heart by anyone before. OK.. you're right.. all of those children that are starving because they live in poverty in the Appalachians should just be allowed to starve to death because their parents made bad choices. Anyway you look at it those conditions are the result of bad choices by the parents not the children. Yes, make the parents responsible but as big of an ******** as I am.. even I wouldn't want children to starve to death or die from disease because of some adults stupidity. I said I understand how you feel and why even though you may feel that they should have to die for choices that they had nothing to do with.. and that's what you are saying.. starvation and disease kills children, call me a bleeding heart or anything you want but I will continue to believe that we still must do something to protect the innocent. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 6:32pm  
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 6:45pm  
Mine is up to date-if I had another, I would spread them out a bit.  4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 7:07pm  
My middle didn't start getting vaccinated till she was 7 just because we were still trying to get seizures under control and there was a very slight risk of seizure as a side effect the other 2 were always on whatever schedule Dr. said. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 7:25pm  
@BooBear, that's is exactly why I think kids who are healthy should be vaccinated, it protects those that cannot be vaccinated for legitimate reasons..  The parents who choose not to vaccinate for other reason are relying on/using  the rest of the population to protect their children.  4951
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~ 9 years ago   Jan 27, '15 8:15pm  

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>> The lnik between MMR and autism has been debunked for a while. The idiot who wrote the findings admitted he lied.�Measels were gone. Now they are back, thanks to the anti-vaxxers and their propaganda.�
 
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@notfromhere: Vaccinate yourself and your kids and let those who want to opt out deal with the illness.
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No sympathy and no public aid to treat them for that illnes sfor�those who refuse vaccinations.� If you want to be part of the problem, then finance that portion of your healthcare yourself.��� Personal choice also means learning to live with the consequences of their actions.
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Yes it is a personal choice, and they are within their rights to make that choice, but by opting out, they are helping to bring back illness that had been eradicated until this "no vaccine" movement.
 
@donnatella:� I think you're right Donnatella, I'm inclined to agree wholeheartedly because we all make choices and we should have to be responsible for the outcome of those choices. However in many cases there are children that had the misfortune of being born to parents that can't seem to make a decent choice. In too many cases it's the children that pay the price for adult stupidity. Should we make those children live with the consequences of their parents actions? I do understand what you're saying but it's another one of those things that there just isn't any good answer.
@BlissfullyRetired:�Make those parents financially responsible...end of story.�
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It's the "what about the poor children" cry-baby scenarios that have allowed our country's "welfare" system to run amuck.�This "what about the poor children" allows people to live generation after generation on their *** in front of the TV and be the "DON'Ts and WON'Ts" of this world, so the country can live with the fact that they are "taking care of the poor children."� That's BULL****!!!!!!!�
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This is simply coddling laziness.� �If you are going to crack down on irresponsible behavior, then do it.� That goes for lazy welfare queens and that also goes for everyone who refuses vaccines.� Un-vaccinated people are what allows outbreaks to thrive.�
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There are tons of "what ifs" and "exceptions" to every scenario if you sit there and think about them. This country needs to grow a pair and fix these issues of coddling and make people personally responsible for their own actions. If you don't work, you don't eat.� If you don't protect your family with vaccines, you take the risk of major illness or worse.�
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You are either part of the solution or you are part of the problem.�
 
@donnatella:
Welfare people are not typically the ones who opt out of vaccines. Vaccines are free for them and they generally do what they are told. They are the sheeple. People who choose no vaccine or slow vaccine are people who have done alternative research and don't believe everything the government and the ABC Agencies have to say about our wellbeing and the wellbeing of our children.
 
Bottom line, we all have the right to choose what poisons we will or won't put into our own and our children's bodies. In other countries, tyrannical governments go door to door giving vaccines to children whether the parents want it or not. If you want your children "protected" from disease, have them vaccinated. If you want them protected from God-knows-what additives in those vaccines, don't. If you don't want your loved ones on immune suppressing medications to be exposed to live vaccines, put those off until it's appropriate for your family. If you are taking immune suppressing drugs and you enter public places like airports and churches where many children have recently received live vaccines, you are putting yourself at risk. If vaccines work, then your vaccinated children are protected, and you need not worry about what the rest of the population is doing.
 
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