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by: mattem Active Indicator LED Icon 5 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 6:06am  
With the $15 an hour for fast food workers? 4951
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fcabanski Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 6:11am  
Yes of course.  They have hard to find skills. 4951
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mattem Active Indicator LED Icon 5 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 6:24am  
Yes of course.  They have hard to find skills.
 
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Right!! Lol 4951
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donnatella Active Indicator LED Icon 13 Forum Moderator
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 7:06am  
With the $15 an hour for fast food workers?
 
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Soon as that sugar daddy I asked for shows up and that Aston Martin is delivered, I won't give a rat's @ss about the topic. 4951
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Fallon Active Indicator LED Icon 18
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 7:43am  
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thegoodwife Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 7:48am  
While getting ready for work this morning the news was on & they were talking to a young Hispanic kid, maybe 20 yr.s old. They portrayed him as a single father who has worked in fast food for 5 yrs. and makes below the poverty level. Well too bad, go back to school, get an education & do something with your life to take care of your child.  I don't care if you're not making enough to support your kid and yourself. That was your choice to have a child.  It didn't even mention if he had custody of the kid.  I know dual income families that made a conscience decision about how many kids to have. They didn't just keep popping them out.  Nope -  $15.00 is way too much for an entry level job that belongs to students and not young uneducated parents. 4951
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Humbletexan1 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 8:03am  
No way! And furthermore, when they show the protest on TV, the protesters signs are in spanish. Go back to Mexico, Guatamala, and Honduras and demand $15/hr. Let us know how that works for ya! 4951
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MTechnique Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 8:06am  
Hell no.I saw the protesters here in downtown Houston this morning on the news. I did laugh at some of the signs written in Spanish.Seriously its an entry level job. If you don't like it change your circumstance and strive for better. No one is going to pay a fast food worker $15/hr because they aren't worth that.I cannot remember the last time I got fast food and my order was not screwed up.Furthermore if I had an employee missing work that was part of that strike/protest/childish hissy fit I would $@&^can them in a heart beat. Now you're making $0.00 an hour. 4951
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shodan66 Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 10:15am  
Every time this discussion comes up in other circles with some of my more liberal friends it astounds me that they honestly believe raising the wages of unskilled labor is not going to raise the average cost of everything else.Two things that are never going to work the way libs want them to are raising the floor and capping the ceiling.My son and I had the discussion a few years back about taxing the rich.  He was still in college and all for it.  I pointed out that the CEO and board of my company were not going to take a net-loss because Uncle Sugar taxed them more.  They would "trim some fat" in the organization so that they could still get their bonus.  If that means our company of 35,000 employees needs to lose 100 or so mid-level techs/mgrs then so be it.  The libs don't want to hear that their utopian plan just put a single mother of two or a father that's been with the company for 20+ years and has one more kid to put through college out on the street.Same thing here.  Someone is going to cover the cost of that unskilled labor increase.  It's not going to be the CEO or anyone with "VP" in their title.  Those costs will be recouped in other places...automation replacing the job entirely...or raising of prices.If you argue with math, you'll lose.  4951
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Burnsway Active Indicator LED Icon 13
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 11:07am  
15 an hour plus benefits, move over teens, I'm going back to work fast food....lol 4951
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N+T Active Indicator LED Icon 14
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 11:13am  
Does the store manager even make $15 an hour now?
 
If minimum wage is raised grocery store prices will sky rocket and I will never eat out again and have to like ramen noodles. The economy would plummet!! 4951
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Francita Active Indicator LED Icon 17
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 12:26pm  
Fast food workers want $15 an hour so they strike...rebuttal... don't buy fast food.
 
Its disgusting and bad for you and prices are getting ready to go up. Boycott fast food for many reasons. 4951
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MTechnique Active Indicator LED Icon 4
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 1:36pm  
I don't see how the potential for raised food prices has anything to do with the argument.The skill level of the individuals demanding a roughly 100% pay raise does not warrant that pay level. Period. If you wish to make in the neighborhood of $15/hr then find a job elsewhere that pays amicably.If you're unable to do so chances are you are the problem.Fast food businesses are not holding your against your will to work for them for minimum wage. You may seek alternative employment at any time.Damn entitlement generation *rolls eyes* 4951
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fcabanski Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 2:09pm  
The potential for raised food prices comes in, because the premise of an increased minimum wage is false.  The premise is that if the minimum wage increases, the people earning minimum wage will have a better position in the economy.But if the minimum wage is increased, prices will rise, the economy will inflate related to costs, and the minimum wage workers will still reside at the bottom tier of the wage earner's ladder. 4951
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CBP210 Active Indicator LED Icon 10
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 2:31pm  
The fast food prices are already ridiculous so raising it more would force me to use other establishments 4951
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shodan66 Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 9 years ago   Sep 4, '14 3:05pm  
The fast food prices are already ridiculous so raising it more would force me to use other establishments
 
@CBP210: I hear what you're saying but it wouldn't be just fast food prices that would rise.  As @fcabanski points out, the fast food industry doesn't exist inside of an economic vacuum.  The ripple effect of raising the floor for unskilled labor would drive costs of everything up...aka inflation.  At first these employees would see a nice bump in pay.  $15 an hour might allow them the little extras...for a very short period.  As the ripple works its way through the market and a loaf of bread starts to cost $6, their extra pay is negated and once again the middle-class...do you hear anyone hollering about raising the wages/salaries of the middle-class?  anyone? Bueller?...gets squeezed because our dollars no longer go as far.I suspect that most everyone that frequents this site is on-board with @MTechnique.  The answer is two-fold and extremely elementary.  1) Understand that these sorts of jobs are entry level and not intended to fund a proper living wage for a family of four and 2) that education...which in today's world with so very many avenues is readily available at low or no cost...is the key to make yourself a valuable resource.  Doesn't have to be a BS, MS, or PhD.  Plenty of opportunity out there for trade and technical schools. 
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