@fallon (thread Jack for a sec) Â I called your Javier painter dude. I am in need of another quote to make Hubs warm and fuzzy. I hope he gets back to me soon. Cam contracting has already been so on the ball but I wanted to get three bids. Apparently, business number 2 doesn't need any work as i've yet to have a call back. I hope he calls me back soon....as in No later than Monday! Anyhoo, just thought I'd share. Carry on. 4951