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"Under God" lawsuit

"Under God" lawsuit

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by: FoFa Active Indicator LED Icon 17 OP 
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 9:30am  
Here we go again.A national humanist group is suing a New Jersey school district on behalf of a family that believes the phrase "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance is discriminatory toward atheist children.The group says the phrase, added in 1954, "marginalizes atheist and humanist kids as something less than ideal patriots." The anonymous plaintiffs say those two words violate the state constitution's right to equal protection. 4951
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Fallon Active Indicator LED Icon 18
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 9:38am  
Removed By Request 4951
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nikkiole Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 9:41am  
This crap is really annoying. Are people really that sensitive?? Dear Lord.... 4951
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shodan66 Active Indicator LED Icon 15
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 10:44am  
@Fofa"marginalizes atheist and humanist kids as something less than ideal patriots." - This was the exact reason it was added.  Eisenhower specifically wanted to point out that our archenemy the Communists were ungodly and that American's (being godly) clearly were superior. @Fallon"These same people have no trouble spending a dollar." - Regardless of your belief position, groceries still need to bought and bills still need to be paid.  The phrase "In God We Trust" wasn't added to paper money until 1957.  Three years after "Under God" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance and for the same reasons.  Like the Pledge, this has always been a contested issue with non-believers.@nikkiole"Are people really that sensitive??" - People can be that sensitive on both sides of the issue...if they so chose to take a side, that is.  The reaction from the believing community has shown just as much hate and anger as the non-believing.  If believers weren't just as sensitive...why would they even care?  As is the case with most divisive issues...both sides are rolling in the same mud.Now that I've said all that allow me to say this.  I believe in many things.  The Bible is not one of those things.  Nor is any deity that would even remotely resemble anything in the Abrahamic (Judeo-Christrian-Muslim) religion.  I'm educated.  I'm a business professional.  I'm a patriot that served 21 years in this great nation's military.  I'm a father, a husband, and I hope to some extent a decent guy.  I could care less about what's on my money.  Doesn't bother me one bit to visit a church for an event.  I wouldn't mind seeing them taxed but I also think that a lot more good than bad comes out of the doors so I'm OK with giving them a pass on it.  When I get to the "Under God" part of the Pledge I just quietly opt not to say it.  When I'm at an event and am asked to bow my head for prayer I oblige.  I remove my hat as I know some find it offensive.And now that I've said that - my last thing.  We are not a Christian nation.  We are not a theocracy.  We are a democracy (or republic depending on your interpretation) of free individuals.  We are a nation that is primarily Christian (83%) that has been allowed to marginalize those with differing beliefs.  In a nation of free people, everyone should be allowed to have their say whether you agree with them or not.  And before anyone replies that non-believers are a small, irrelevant fringe group, here's a parallel; 13% of Americans identify publicly as having no religion, 12.3% of Americans are black.  Maybe not as small a minority as you think.  ;-)Just my 2 cents.  YMMV. 4951
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~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 11:03am  
I am a teacher of eighteen years who recently moved to Kingwood.  Due to my husband's work, I have lived in many areas and worked for many school systems.  NEVER was any student compelled to recite anything.   Most students participated, but there was never any mention made of those who, for whatever reason, did not participate.  MInority rights should be respected, but there is something very wrong with the majority being forced to discontinue a practice because certain individuals objected.  There will always be someone who will objecting to any practice.  My suggestions is to allow the person to not participate and not make a big deal out of it.  Tyranny by a minority is just a harmful as tyranny of the majority.  There has to be some "live and let live" spirit and tolerance shown to those on both sides of the issue.  Surely our society has bigger challenges than this!  (Just an opinion, I do not claim any special knowledge of "what is right".) 4951
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fcabanski Active Indicator LED Icon 16
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 1:34pm  
They don't have to say it. 4951
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djohn78 Active Indicator LED Icon 1
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 2:26pm  
We have "Freedom of Religion" not "Freedom From Religion" 4951
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KTownTexican Active Indicator LED Icon 11
~ 9 years ago   Apr 22, '14 2:29pm  
Sounds like the time when they wanted to cut out prayer in schools during football games,, that didn't last. 4951
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